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Great trade! We lose Ortiz (6 years), Hall (4 or 5 years) and #34 in the draft (for his 6 seasons). Sometimes those picks turn into Gunner (#44 in '19) but sometimes not, and typically not nearly as good as Gunnar is. Time will tell how this works out, but adding an outstanding veteran ToR feels SO good! Again, great trade.
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Bisciotti has been a GREAT owner, but this failure to move on from Harbaugh will be a mark against him.
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Also, I hadn't noticed this piece by Roch regarding the O's having every intention of getting Kjerstad playing time in RF, as much as possible.
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Hadn't seen this before, but Fangraphs projects Holliday at SS. The full projected Depth Chart is listed a bit below the top of the page. Interesting.
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3 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
I appreciate that it was just that one time you demanded that the team's #1 prospect be traded after a couple of poor outings for a 36-year-old middle reliever who'd go on to sell out half the team to PED investigators.
I cannot recall who this is referring to. Which #1 prospect... which reliever? Thanks.
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Nothing is official until the Orioles announce it, but, with that said, it would be shocking for someone like Ourand to report something that wasn't true. We'll soon see...
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This is coming from John Ourand, the respected 'sports business' journalist. This may well be legit...
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On 1/4/2024 at 11:17 PM, Frobby said:
You understand that I was only talking about defense, right? And specifically, the defense when Anderson, Finley and Devereaux were on the field simultaneously. That was the overall best outfield defensive alignment the O’s have ever had IMO, though Blair was a better defender than any of them. But like I said, they weren’t on the field simultaneously all that often.
Agreed. Hands down the best defensive OF I've seen in Baltimore (I'm 58). It was a treat to witness, though, as you said, not all that often.
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The Marlins, White Sox, and Mariners are among the teams most often linked to us in regards to trade partners, as each appears open to dealing quality starting pitching. Starters like Jesus Lazardo, Garrett Braxton, Dylan Cease, Logan Gilbert and Bryce Miller get mentioned a lot. And, understandably, we have numerous thread discussing these options. Then there are the Brewers and Guardians with starters Corbin Burnes and Shane Bieber rumored to be available. Yet, they are FA's at the end of '24 and IMHO don't seem like the best options because of it. However, there are other teams that could be matches.
So, in your estimation, which teams, besides Seattle, Chicago WS, Miami, Milwaukee and Cleveland intrigue you as potential trade partners and why? -
THAT was a back breaker! smh
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Our D has not stopped a third down yet. Our toughest test to date.
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Surprised the refs didn't throw a flag on KC #32 after mugging Flowers before the throw. No matter in the end, but still...
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Yes!!!!!
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25 minutes ago, Ripken said:
Anyone acquired at the deadline won't make 20 starts for the Orioles.
I didn't consider that! LOL! Thx
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@Frobby It was unclear in the OP whether that trade can be at any point during 2024 or if you meant before OD. I would say no to before OD, but yes to a starter better than Kremer by the deadline.
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10 hours ago, hutchead said:
I just watched a YouTube video where this one guy proposed the Orioles send Mullins, Hall, and McDermott for Luzardo. I'd do that deal in a heartbeat! But I suspect the Marlins would laugh Elias out of the room if he proposed that.
Fantasyland trade proposals are overly abundant.
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6 hours ago, RZNJ said:
Max Meyer or Trevor Rodger’s.
6 hours ago, Sports Guy said:Rogers
Both are coming off injuries. Meyer didn't pitch in 2023 and has only started two games in the majors and Rogers pitched in just 18 innings in 2023. Time will tell.
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Just a quick look at their presumed staff for 2024: Sandy Alcantara is out for the season after TJ surgery, Jesus Luzardo is the De Facto ace, and the likely remaining starters are rookie phenom Eury Perez at #2, Garrett Braxton at #3, Edward Cabrera at #4, and no one I can peg as their #5.
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Just now, RZNJ said:
Wow! I was at a soccer practice (not mine!) and should have proof read. That should be 2B.
Hehehe gotcha. I was feeling a bit stupid, but feel better now. LOL
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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:
1. Holliday will be the wbc sometime in 2024. Westbuwrg will slide from 2B to 3B.
What is "wbc" ?
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I don't know the specific numbers as it relates to the injury risk of Pitchers v Hitters, though it seems reasonable to assume there is a large enough gap to raise a Rock-sized eyebrow.
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Now change Gunnar to Holliday... and that, IMHO, would be a closer poll. How much closer? Hard to say, but notably so.
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In no particular order and with apologies to the TLDR crowd :
- Will Holliday show enough improvement at SS this season to push Gunnar to 3B, or will this season solidify his transition to 2B?
- Could Mayo improve defensively at 3B to be at least average, and, if so, would Hyde insert him as the regular 3B over a better defender/defensive alignment? If 3B doesn't pan out, will Mayo be able to play 1B (or even RF) well enough this season to show he's ready to get plenty of AB's in the field?
- Will the O's give Ortiz a legitimate shot at SS this season? If they do and he plays well, will the O's stay with him regularly despite potentially improved defenders in Holliday at SS & Mayo at 3B pushing for playing time at those positions?
- Might Mountcastle's career OPS splits (.849 v LHP / .741 v RHP) continue to find him getting many of his AB's v LHP, or will he take the next step and break out into a better all around hitter in his age 27 season?
- Will we see an improved Westburg at the plate (100 OPS+ last year) as many suspect, or will his 228 PA rookie season carry over to 2024? Westburg's defensive position remains up for debate, though playing a fine 2B in 2023 should help him get the start there, at least early in the season. Also, could progress from Holliday at 2B and/or Mayo at 3B push Westburg from a regular and into a Super Utility role?
- Speaking of utility, will O'Hearn, Mateo and Urias remain with the team throughout the season? O'Hearn had nearly a .900 OPS stretch last season (May-July, 181 PA's, ) surprising most of use, but the rest of his PA's (187) were essentially career average (.714). So, will the real Ryan O'Hearn step up... or perhaps step out?
- Will Gunnar beat the sophomore jinx and take yet another step towards being among the games elite? Also, at which position will he be doing it?
- Will 2024 be Santander (FA), Hays, and Mullins' last hoorah in Baltimore? Each have questions moving forward, but Santander's impending free agency makes him the least likely to return.
- Will Cowser and Kjerstad show this season that they're ready to fill two of those three OF spots moving forward, or, in Kjerstad's case, could he find more PA's as our regular DH?
- Do players like Stowers and Norby have a future in Baltimore or are trades their most likely scenario?
- With Rutschman and McCann virtually locked into their spots, that leaves one catcher in the system to watch with great interest... Sam Basallo. While it seems unlikely, could Basallo continue his meteoric rise and debut in 2024?
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32 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
“I don’t think there’s any bones about it,” Elias said. “We’re better equipped to bring in impact starting pitching via the trade route, and so we’ve been exploring that pretty heavily.“
He’s still working on Luzardo or Cease. If they can’t get a deal done you’re probably looking at a 1 year deal for Lorenzen."Impact"... that's good to hear. Hopefully we'll be okay with who we lose to gain that pitching. I doubt we will because we love (most of) our prospects, but again, here's to hoping.
Orioles close to acquiring Corbin Burnes (Update: Acquired for Joey Ortiz and DL Hall)
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Possibly, yes. We may also agree to an extension. But to your point I should have noted that we may regain a pick for Burnes.