Pickles

What if they traded the veterans instead?

I think if it was really like that, Elias would be trading the veterans.

Do what? Sign extensions? LOL. Calm down bro. I'm not trying to fight ya.

I bet not.

Ok, that's what I was asking. Did I miss something? Well, that's definitely not anti-extension.

What do you want to ask him?

This is at least implying he was referring to extensions. But ok, not directly.

No snark, but did I miss something in those comments that Elias said that was against extensions?

A boot stamping on a human face, forever.

Well, I mean I wouldn't either package to be clear.

I wouldn't do either but if I had to choose one I'd choose the first package. At least I'd feel like I had upgraded my rotation for the next two years. Sending Kremer out and bringing Cease in- yes, Cease is better with more upside- but overall the rotation isn't all that improved.

Seems like I'd like to play poker with a lot of people here.

The suggestion that Kremer be part of this package is one of the more ludicrous suggestions going around.

We all want something.

The top three are untouchable. They can have one of Cowser, Kjerstad, Ortiz, and Westburg if you want to count him as a prospect. And then some lesser pieces. Or they can go get a bunch of 19 year old pitchers and piss off because they're starting to annoy me.

I've seen him in that range. He's no fringe top 100 guy.

And we're supposed to believe we MUST give up two top global 50 prospects.

People can't control their emotions. Common negotiating mistakes.

This is also part of my stance.

It's certainly within the realm of possibility. We heard they had interest in Nola. Surely that interest would have acknowledged that he would receive a contract exceeding what you lay out above.

If I was going to give up 12 years of control, I'd much rather get somebody like Woo who has more team control.

I'm glad you get to define the parameters of reality to fit into your preconceived notions. Let me guess? Cease is the only one who is realistic.

I'd be talking to Eduardo Rodriguez for one.

That's close to where I am. To give up that package for Cease, the FO should be confident they are going to be able to get better performance from Cease than he has (with one notable exception) delivered so far in his career. If they feel that way, I trust them. If they don't feel that way, I trust them.

I personally wouldn't do it. If they do it, then they must think higher of Cease than I do.