Yardball85
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1 hour ago, ScGO's said:
Hyun Jin Ryu - 1 Year 14 Million
Mike Clevinger - 3 Year 52 Million
James Paxton - 1 year 14 Million
Michael Lorenzen - 2 year 28 Million
Alex Wood - 2 year 30 Million
Trevor Bauer - 1 Year 6 Million
Ryu and Bauer work for me. Paxton is okay. The rest, pass.
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1 hour ago, Safelykept said:
JA wont spend money? I wont go to sleep on him just. Remember he was the one who hired Mike Elias, and has spent 10s of millions on internal modern analytics, scouting and player development. Thats part of it another part is the 10s of millions hes spent to bring the orioles into dramatic relevance (VS. 5 years ago) in the international player market. Another part is every ARB eligible Orioles was tendered (= pay raise) Has he extended anybody? not yet.What hes hasn't done (other than the early PA years) is do an Orioles specialty since the late 90,s handing one stupid ass FA contract right after the other> Hopefully those days are over for us. He should be applauded for that
If this is John Angelos or one of his cronies: Hi. The vast majority of Baltimore strongly dislikes you.
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Just now, Sports Guy said:
I don’t know why anyone would be comfortable with the Os pen.
Hell, go beyond the pen..look at the rotation too.
How many players do you comfortably feel are going to be above average in 2024?
but but but... everyone is guaranteed to repeat their success in 2024 AND stay healthy!
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6 minutes ago, Ripken said:
Why do you want John Angelos to be homeless?
Touche. That wouldn't be fair to him to ask the Orioles to get out of the bottom five in payrolls.
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They should sign Stephenson AND upgrade the rotation.
Crazy concept I know.
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2 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:
Oh by no means was my comment meant to be an endorsement of Lorenzen. His drop in Ks ever since he transitioned back to being a starter is alarming.
Agreed. I think his no-hitter, while fun, is possibly increasing his value and worth in many people's minds. Hopefully not ME and co.
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4 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:
I get what you're saying, but Irvin only had four starts post all-star break. That's a pretty small sample size of not sucking.
Fair point. Definitely not guaranteeing anything from Irvin. But I remember Lorenzen from his Cincy and LA days (used to hit too I think) and am just not all that enamored with him. He will probably cost 1 year $10M, whereas Irvin is dirt cheap.
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10 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:
I don't see Lorenzen as any more reliable than Irvin.
I don't think signing a 1 year back of rotation starter has much point, but if they do go for it, I'd rather see a more boom or bust guy like Ryu or Paxton. As opposed to a guy like Lorenzen who is maybe more predictable but has a career ERA as a SP in the mid 4s.
Agreed. Get Cease or Valdez, or just roll with Irvin, who was perfectly solid last year after the rough April.
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Reports of a Kittredge to Cardinals deal being close and the Orioles being among other teams interested in Ryan Brasier.
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31 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Trade offers:
1) Cowser and Ortiz
2) Kjerstad and Ortiz
3) Cowser, Ortiz and Povich
4) Kjerstad, Ortiz, Povich
5) Westburg, Beavers, Povich and Norby
Are you make some, all or none of those deals?
I begrudgingly do 1, 2, and 5. No on 3 and 4, since 1 and 2 is basically at my limit.
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1 minute ago, HuskerFan said:
That's exactly what I said. "Now, there's another Organization in serious & deep discussions. One of the 2 or 3 best Orgs in all of baseball the last 8-9 seasons."
Online GM's don't deal with reality and struggle with facts.
So you've heard something about Povich as part of a package to Houston for Valdez? What else have you heard? (Taking this with a grain of salt but interested to hear what you'd have to say).
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1 hour ago, ThisIsBirdland said:
Elias and O's fans living rent free in their heads right now. They've more or less said the return for trading Cease is all they have to look forward to for the next year or so. A perceived disappointing return will be pretty tough for some of them.
True, but I remember in 2008, all we had to look forward to was the return for Erik Bedard lol. I kind of pity them.
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8 minutes ago, ChosenOne21 said:
There's hoarding prospects and being a prospect hoarder (like the TV show/psychological condition). I'm really hoping he isn't the latter, but you're right. This offseason will tell us. He can't possibly use all those players. Some of them need to go.
Makes sense to all of us. Let's see if Elias thinks the same way (obviously you have to account for teams like the White Sox, Mariners, and Marlins demanding too much, in which case Elias should hold onto the propsects).
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44 minutes ago, wildcard said:
I don't think the O's will spend the money to get Stroman but I can see them waiting out Lorenzen for a 1/10 with a one year option with a 1M buyout.
Britton's projection
1 year, $11 million
https://theathletic.com/5029170/2023/12/19/free-agents-mlb-list/
Which is pathetic of them.
Not saying you're wrong, but would again show the Orioles are not serious about actually upgrading the team in the offseason.
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21 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:
Here's a question. Assuming these three trades are on the table, which one are you making?
1) Mountcastle + Willems for E. Cabrera
3) Norby + Santander for M. Meyer
4) Basallo + Cowser for Luzardo
1 all day for me.
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I thought Ryan O'Hearn would be DFA'ed by June.
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3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
It will pick back up next week. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see one big transaction in the next couple of days but ultimately, it will start back up next week.
One of the insiders on the WS board said their GM isn’t even in the office this week, which is fairly normal for this time of the year.
Makes sense. Most people aren't in the office where I work either (though I am, ugh), so only fair that GMs would too.
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The "stove" could not possibly be any less "hot" now.
The lulls of the MLB offseason.
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16 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:
I would do either trade but would prefer the 2nd trade as I want to hang onto Povich.
Same.
Thanks for reading!
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14 hours ago, deward said:
I'd swap Ortiz for Westburg and maybe someone like Armbruester instead of Beavers.
Fair enough. I'd do that too, not sure if HOU would.
Thanks for reading!
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33 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:
I would do that.
This article I wrote has another proposal: Hays, Westburg, Baumann, and Beavers. I'm sure most on here would do it in a second, but it provides a different perspective seeing as the Astros likely want to upgrade their OF (moving Chas to center) and stay competitive.
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8 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:
I'm not a fan of anyone involved in domestic abuse. Agree with what @Aglets states above. This would be a very disappointing signing in a number of ways.
Agreed. Like Chapman, he would be very hard to root for. It would be nice to see the Orioles target good players who aren't abusers.
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18 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:
I recognize it's Bowden, but figured it was worth posting.
Feel like the Yankees have been extremely bullish on making this move.
The Giants throwing around confederate money ala Syd Thrift some 20+ years ago. Struck out on Judge and Ohtani and now projected with highest offer but not a favorite for YY.
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1 hour ago, yark14 said:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/braves-release-matt-carpenter.html
Could Elias go after Carpenter to be the past-prime cheap veteran signing a la Odor, Frazier?
Fangraphs’ Ben Clemens: “C’mon Orioles, Do Something!”
in Orioles Talk
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C'mon. The Orioles did not win 101 games because of Gibson, Frazier, and Irvin. It had nothing to do with Elias's moves in the offseason and who knows, had he gotten a good starter (I was screaming for Eovaldi), the Orioles might not have been swept in the playoffs.
This offseason is no different. Yes, the Orioles are good, and will be good this year. But that does not excuse Elias from failing to upgrade the team. Kimbrel for Bautista is a big downgrade, Means' health is still a question mark, and who knows how the prospects will all perform (Cowser struggled last year). He should be making moves to improve the team.