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    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    13 hours ago, pdiddy said:

    Mullins is particularly difficult to assess IMO because of the abandonment of switch hitting.  I was concerned in May that the scouting had adjusted but then he just started raking again. In any case it’s a small bright spot in an awful season (like watching Cal hit beach balls in 1991).  Unless a contending team has a high profile injury I don’t think anyone is risking looking dumb by trading for him for what the Os should ask for though and I’m ok with that.

    Question for the more knowledgeable folks regarding Manny - is he worth what we thought he was worth when he was traded? I thought he was going to continue getting better but…

     

     

    Good post and I agree. 

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    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    15 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

    I love it when people say Mullins IS worth a ton.  We have no idea what his worth is.  His worth is what someone will pay

    Exactly.  As in anything in this world, value is determined by what the market is/what someone will pay.  Perhaps other teams see Mullins as a mirage and won't give us a solid return for him.  In which case, you keep him and hope he keeps this up. 

    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    30 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Diaz was a top 50 guy when we got him.  If you get a top 50 guy (and presumably you and your scouts love him), a potential mid to back end starter, a potential solid BP arm, I think you think long and hard about that deal.

    I’m not saying he’s a complete slam dunk but if the second player was a rising guy like Bradish and you get a highly ranked guy, that’s a lot to say no to for a guy who has had 2 great months in the majors and is already 26.

    Thank you.  

    Obviously if Mullins is still doing this a year from now and put a .900+ OPS in 2021, then this changes things.  

    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    7 minutes ago, LocoChris said:

    Don’t agree, the return would have to be even better than what they got for Machado, who was a rental. 

    I see your point, and a Machado return as it existed in 2018 is probably the lowest I'd go.  But we are talking about 2.5 months of success.  If this is the 2021/22 offseason, and he has sustauined these numbers , I am demanding a lot more.

    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

    Reality check:  You said you would trade Mullins for something close to what the O's got in the Manny trade.  I said I would not.   You said you would take what the O's hope they got at the time of the trade.  

    That sounds like you valuing hope of what the O's got over the reality of what the O's got.  

    Its as simple as that.

    In other words, the Machado return had more value then than it does now, because Diaz hasn't really panned out.  He was more valuable then.  So, I would take a package that had the same value as the trade had in 2018.  I would not take a package that includes 2021 Diaz and 2021 Kremer as headliners.  My point is extremely clear.

    I think Mullins in the all Star game is pretty likely

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    39 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

    With the service time Cedric has left, I would not be happy with a 2018 like trade package for Manny. I wasn't thrilled with the Manny trade at the time, but that's more on the Orioles for not trading Manny sooner after failing to secure a contract extension. 

     

    But the big difference is, Machado was an established star, whereas Mullins is two years removed from being optioned to Bowie because he couldn't hit.  Obviously Mullins has value because he is cheap and controllable, and hopefully the swtich to hitting left handed has yielded sustainable results, but Diaz (who was very highly ranked at the time), plus Kremer, Pop, and Bannon, is a deal you take for Mullins now. 

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