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On 5/17/2024 at 8:07 PM, Spy Fox said:
Just watched the video-- wow is that unfortunate with the popup landing right within the entrance, when the whole rest of the dugout has a wall:
Why don't they have bench/dugout gates?
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On 5/29/2024 at 11:19 AM, CHIP said:
As a reminder, my son was a catcher and played until his HS junior year. He loves the game and also has Asperger's... so he has a gift and he compiles the stats for me and I then get to go thru what we talk about here on the board. (he is actually going to get to do this in college next year also).
We have the overall stats and we have the head to head stats. I have been able to watch these games from the archive and get to the plays/ABs with Handley and Hunt so this is more about the head to head stats..
This is a small sample size but we have to start somewhere...
Handley has played in 3 games, Hunt has played in 2 games.
Handley was 4-14 with 1 BB, 3 K, 1 SB, 2 RBI, stole a base offensively, and had 2 caught stealing defensively.
Hunt was 2-9 with 1 HR, 4 K, 1 RBI, and defensively had 3 SB vs 1 CS.
The HR has given Hunt the SLG advantage. Handley as usual has a good AVG and OBP with low K rate.
Handley laid down on nice bunt 1B on 5/23 but at the same time has top 5 EVs of 104.1, 103, 102, 100.5, & 91.9. Hunt's top 5 EVs are 103.8, 103.5, 99.6, 92.6 & 88.5.
Handley seems steady and doing what he has done all year. We have noticed a significant change in bat path from last year to this year.
Hunt in his SSS seems to be a very different hitter. He is watching a lot of pitches that are on the middle of the plate and chasing a lot of pitches off the plate. This really happened yesterday. It is early so he may be pressing with his new team.
Defensively... Hunt receives well (in my opinion) but when the ball is moving and not where he is set up, he seems to have trouble moving to catch/block the ball. These pitchers are all new to him so this could be some unfamiliarity and currently gets the benefit of the doubt. Gwinnett seemed to run on him freely as there were 5 attempts yesterday (1 was a double steal that he got the guy at 2nd so other SB didn't count).
Norfolk posted a strike em out throw em out of the 5/24 game which wasn't actually a throw em out as there were 2 outs when the strike out happened. His actual CS earlier in the game was even better. You can also see Handley calling the pickoffs and keeping runners close even with Hoffman and Charles pitching.
Thank you and your son! Excellent!
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39 minutes ago, Frobby said:
This thread comes from a brief discussion @Philipand I had last night about pitch counts.
BB-ref doesn’t have any pitch count data from before 1988, so we’ll never know how many pitches Jim Palmer or Mike Cuellar or Dave McNally pitched in a typical game. But looking just at the data from 1988 is pretty interesting.
That year, the average pitches per start was 96. There were 597 games where a pitcher met or exceeded 120 pitches, and 140 different pitchers did it. Mark Langston did it 20 times. 13 pitchers had a game where they topped 150 pitches, topped by Greg Maddux at 167 pitches.
Last year, the average pitches per start was 85. There were 4 games where a pitcher met or exceeded 120 pitches, and nobody did it more than once. Alex Cobb topped the list at 131 pitches.
We’ve had this same discussion countless times regarding the innings thrown by starters, but I thought it was interesting to look at it from the context of pitches. The idea of pulling a pitcher from a no-hitter after 103 pitches, like the O’s did with Bradish a few days ago, would have been pretty laughable in 1988. Now, it’s barely even debatable.
The general theory is that pitchers today don’t pace themselves, but go max effort on almost every pitch (even if it’s breaking stuff they’re trying to create max spin), whereas back in the day pitchers coasted along at 90% effort unless or until they needed to “reach for something extra.” The ability of almost any hitter to knock one out of the park means that pitchers can’t coast like they used to. But sometimes I wonder how so many guys could throw a massive number of pitches compared to today. I don’t really want to rehash the whole “today’s pitches are soft” debate, but it’s really striking how much the game has changed in the last 36 years, to say nothing of the previous years where pitch count data isn’t available.
Great point(s). In my unknowledgeable view, I think the body structure (arm, elbow, shoulder) has not caught up to the mechanical aspects of throwing (or being able to) 95+ with "spin" rates, etc.
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IDK - those that honestly upset about your posts may need context. My only qualm is that you feel the urge to apologize for it.
Shoot I just wasted my time reading posts about a guy we traded for that was hijacked into how someone hates billionaires.
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2 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:
Who is his cousin, Mike?
Don't fall for it.... Mike Hunt?
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7 hours ago, Frobby said:
Is it me, or is the overall tone of the message board very negative right now?
I realize there are several players in slumps right now, and the overall offense hasn’t been that good the last 14 games or so. Still, big picture, the team is on pace to win 107 games and finish with the highest runs/game in the AL. And despite the recent slump, the team has won 10 of its last 14 games, including taking 3 of 4 from the Yankees. The hitting may have slumped, but the pitchers have been unbelievable of late. Over the 14 game stretch that the offense has been slumping, the team has a 2.13 ERA.
Bottom line, the season has gone great so far. Yeah there are guys slumping. That happens. Some will come out of it, some may have off years or be about done. But this team is winning, consistently. Sometimes the offense carries the pitching, sometimes it’s the other way around. Sometimes everything is hitting on all cylinders, but that doesn’t happen all that much for any team. The O’s are constantly finding ways to win, and that’s what good teams do. So count me as a happy camper, regardless of who’s slumping at the moment.
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1 hour ago, wildcard said:
In 2023 Mountcastle had a 1.052 OPS vs lefties but a 640 OPS vs righties.
So far in 2024 he has a 958 OPS vs lefties and a 711 OPS vs righties. It's so early in the season that if Mounty goes 4 for 4 vs a righty things could look different. But its worth watching.
If the O's need to platoon O'Hearn and Mountcastle at 1B that opens at bats at DH for Kjerstad or Mayo.
Too soon to know where this is headed but not too soon to consider.
btw this conversation does have merit. THANKS!
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16 minutes ago, wildcard said:
No if I drew a conclusion from 125 at bats it would be jump to conclusions. Instead its a developing situation that we should be aware of.
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44 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:
...that I have had more than 33,000 posts and or comments on the game thread in the last 12 years I've been on OH. I have a hard time getting my arms around that number, but apparently it's true. I know, many of the posts and comments were whiny, and needlessly negative or just plain ridiculous("Nolan Reimold, will be an Oriole great") and many were just about me venting. But my God, more than 33,000 comments? I think it shows I'm a fanatic Oriole fan. But I also think it says, I need to get a life.I dont know if 33,000 is even close to a record on this page, but it sure is hell a lot of comments.Hey, Tony, if you read this, who holds the record for most OH comments?
Roy, there is no such thing as "whiny" when you are that passionate about your team.
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9 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
It's all good Roy.
The game thread emotional posts stay in the game thread. We don't talk about the game thread outside of the game thread!
Despite both passing, ScOtt (121349) and Weams (115271) are still 1 and 2 in the amount of posts.
Saying that, this post count is not all-time. I can't remember but I know we had a reset of post counts in one changeup over years ago and lost a bunch when we purged some posts when the board was on a different server and was too big to move to a new server.
Sports Guy took a few years off from this board (self-imposed) and is still #5 with 64451 posts.
From what I see Roy, you have the 10th most content (posts) with your 32228 posts. Impressive.
https://forum.orioleshangout.com/topmembers/?filter=member_posts@Frobby dwarfs us all in reputation points awarded by other members.
https://forum.orioleshangout.com/topmembers/?filter=pp_reputation_points
Frobby pays better...
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I had the chance to sit across the negotiating and lunch/dinner table a few times with Peter in the 1990's. Two things I most remember - when he talked about how hell bent he was in wanting the buy the O's. He wanted no more out-of-towners. Second, he told me that one thing to do to stop hangovers is to quit smoking - he swore he never had a hangover once he quit. Very loyal man
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I think Nevin, Wong or Maton see OD.
McKenna probably has the best chance IF they don't find anyone better - opt-out or waiver.
Maybe we get another Super April with Mateo (tongue firmly planted)?
Holliday comes up soon if he starts hot in AAA.
Question - When can the O's select Holliday's contract? Before OD?
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I think Elias's explanation had merit.
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17 hours ago, doccat said:
If he was going to add another starter by trade or free agency, the price just shot through the roof with today’s news…
He should have made the move prior to today if he’s known about these injuries for a while…
I know if I’m an agent or GM and I get a call from Elias my asking price is WAY higher today than it was 24 hours ago
Actually, I thought he made the right move if he knew about Bradish before closing Burnes. It may have cost more. As far as free agents I don't believe it would make much difference $$ now.
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I said yes before June 1 although I know I am wrong. Just not ready for that slap in the face yet...
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
Doesn’t strike me as unusual to keep a lid on a big corporate deal until the deal’s done.
Hangout Park
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
You have to admit, the O’s have pulled a lot of rabbits out of their hats the last two years in the bullpen, so we’ll see what unexpected developments emerge in 2024.
And, this has made me a little complacent assuming the last two years can be repeated by sticking with the same process. Luckily, they don't feel that way or... maybe there is a secret sauce (?)
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If I was the new owner I would ask for it to be "completed" / announced as soon as possible after the sale is announced.
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This is better than waiting for the trade deadline... may have been forced to give up the same package for much less time with Burnes- or not be able to do anything and possibly cringe in the playoffs again
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A trade a team wanting a title makes.
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The only good I see from all of this is that it replaced the Cease on the top of my feed. As far as financials I tend to believe that it is all smoke and mirrors with weaving octopus arms. Most likely, sports franchise value is in the branding value and rich guys showing their "size" to their rich guy friends at the country club. Plus, there are many other things but I digress.
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3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:
They get to stand at the finish line and pick the winners.
Anyway, I saw this news and couldn't help but think of Sam Kinison. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea and if he's not for you, I feel bad for you.
This clip is obviously NSFW and if the mods deem that it needs to be taken down, well, so be it. But man, it's funny cause it's true. From 1984 and it's still hilarious.
sad maybe but, to this day I talk about leaving them at home bit.
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1 hour ago, bpilktree said:
What other areas of need do we have though. I think it is top of rotation starter then few rings down maybe one other right hand pitcher like Braiser. The next issues is probably to figure out what to do with few veterans to get young guys at bats.
I agree that we need to get the young guys bats... my recommendation is based on the fact that we could be empty-handed for both, and anyone else worth obtaining may not be moved. I'd pay Montgomery, trade for a Bieber or similar (depends on what the staff sees), keep looking at the BP. I would also be looking at who is available for OF.
Coby Mayo 2024
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Yup. agree.