Jagwar

Hopefully there will still be a chair for the O's when the music stops.

I'm with @Can_of_corn. There really isn't any situational difference between Bradfield getting a walk/single/SB as opposed to a double. The more people on base and in scoring position the better.

The promotion says "Get Tickets" to every home game. They don't actually allow you into the ballpark.

I expect the Yankees and Red Sox to spend this offseason and to be better teams next year. 92 wins might be a real challenge.

Even bulldogs can have injured limbs.

David Schoenfield at ESPN thinks the O's should trade Mayo for Burnes and then sign Jordan Hicks 4/44

I loved what Gibson gave to the staff last year. That being said, I'm glad he's off the board. The O's need to set their sights higher.

I'm assuming that to get those 2 starters, Kremer will likely be included in a trade somewhere.

Here is my hope for the offseason. Is it a realistic best case? Who the phat knows? The O's and the City of Baltimore sign and ratify a long term lease The O's acquire two starters which would at least be #2-3 anywhere else in the league. The O's acquire a closer. The O's acquire a MOO who can take the pressure of the young guys to produce. No idea what it would cost in $$ or prospects.

Sometimes you can be such a noodge. It's not about me having no "confidence in the young guys". It's about measured expectations that they will be able to replicate Santander's .800 OPS with 28 HR and 98 RBI. Is it possible? Of course it is possible. Is it so probable that a team with WS aspirations can write it in ink? I don't believe so.

Well now that is a different proposition yes? Does trading Santander for a pitching upgrade actually improve aggregate value? Then I'm all for it.

I'm not sure I even have 50% confidence, not when I want the O's to take the next step towards a WS. I hope our rookies can thrive, but the landscape has changed.

Do you want to field a team with all rookies?

I think you are aiming something unrealistic at me. I'm not saying don't give Kjerstad and Cowser a chance to step up. I"m saying don't be surprised if they struggle. There are other positions on the field where the O's can try to add a run producer through trade or FA.

I believe in giving them a chance to succeed, but that doesn't mean I have 100% confidence that they are going to immeidately produce.

But... they were complemented by guys like Santander who (somehow) quietly added MOO production. I'm hopeful that Kjerstad and Cowser can provide it in the future, but I'm just not ready to count on 2 rookies to fill Santander's role yet. And in my response to the OP, I said I would do the trade if I thought there was a FA who could be signed to fill Santander's production.

And what question did you ask me? (forgive the old guy with the swiss cheese memory)

But... they certainly didn't give me any confidence that there is still more to be proven.

By naming those players, you're counting on guys who haven't proven a damn thing. The O's are a 101 win team that actually needs to improve in order to take the next step. In subtracting one player (Santander) you would be losing 28 HR and 95 RBI. I have no clue whether Kjerstad or Cowser can rise to the occasion.

Did you believe in Cowser last season? Or Ortiz?

Fair enough. But it's certainly not a crazy question to wonder who might be a proven run producer (not necessarily a RF) who can provide Santander's run production?

Yes... but I only suggested I'd prefer replacing Santander's production with something proven. Why go ballistic on me for my opinion?

And... neither of them have proven anything at the major league level. I don't have to be kidding. YOU don't have to be kidding.

I'd make the trade, but I would want a FA signing to replace Tony Tater's stats. Who would be available?

The choices should have been Yes and Yes