Malike

If you can live 14 years in Detroit, you can live 8 months in Baltimore.

I'd like to add that while everyone is dumping on Houston, Verlander played in Detroit for many years. I feel like that is being overlooked lol.

We're all better off for that.

Why do you think I want him here? I certainly don't.

Honestly, she's a big girl, and something tells me she might be able to afford to travel where he goes when she wants.

So you think he'd cease to amaze us if we traded for him?

Woo has shown a lot more at 23 in his first 10 starts than Rodriguez did. He has an electric arm and developing off-speed pitches. If you aren't impressed that the's had so little time in the minors and has pitched better than the number 1 pitching prospect in baseball this year, that's cool. I don't think it's a bad trade, there is an upside for both teams here and it would be a fair trade.

Doesn't look like they gave up anything of significance for Sewald. Of course, he's a 33-year-old who has accumulated less WAR in 7 seasons combined than Felix Bautista has this year.

Right, they've rushed him after 101 IP in the minors combined, and he's holding his own. We didn't rush Cowser and he can't hit the water if he falls out of a boat. It's a risk for both teams.

Probably easier to pry Woo away than anyone else in that rotation and I'd be okay with a Cowser for Woo. We'd be trading to developing rookies who are both struggling at the ML level.

The only scenario I see this playing out in the next 25 hours is if Seattle believes they are not a playoff team being 5.5 back. If they (foolishly) think they're going to make a run and hold their chips, they are probably relying on the rotation to keep them in games and don't want to lose some depth there and wait on hitters to develop at the big league level.

I'd think there is a good match with the Mariners but likely not until the off-season. They need hitters and we need pitchers. Again, I wouldn't be shocked if we added some depth in a likely overpay for a middling starter, but I'd rather they leverage controllable assets (hitters) for controllable assets (pitchers) and you rarely see this done in the regular season.

Exactly, but he strikes me as a can't shame the shameless type of owner.

I'm sure they looked at EdRod and probably got told to pound sand for the offer they made. If a top-40 prospect gets you Civale and the Rays bite, then I'm pretty sure that they know the market. They didn't become the model of baseball teams everywhere by making dumb decisions and not knowing the market.

I mean, I never suggested they should do that or would. I suggested that Cohen would likely eat the necessary money to get a real prospect from someone for Verlander.

Sure, if they pan out. Most of the players on a top 100 prospect list will be below-average ML players, especially outside of the top 20.

They do get him for 2 years after this, at least. I wouldn't have given up that much, but the Rays are in their window before guys get too expensive to keep around, I guess.

I'm honestly not worried if they stand pat and see how far it gets them. I believe Elias will try to work out some young controlled pitching for some of our young controllable bats when emotions aren't high and teams are in panic mode to win it all right now and make bad choices.

He'll likely see that day off for the LHP coming up.

I know Scherzer has lost his fastball and stuff, but Verlander is not the same guy he was either. He's had a decent run since the ASB but he's pretty much getting by right now and walks are way up and strikeouts are way down. They can value him all they want, but he's not the same pitcher he was last year, not even close.

If we give up anything of value for Verlander it's going to be because Cohen pays virtually all of the salary. He's said he would pay 50 million dollars for a good prospect, the man has more money than sense.

I hope they stay away from Stroman and look somewhere else.

Yet they continue to miss them all year long. It's even worse on outside calls when the catcher sets up inside and they pull the ball across the plate to the outside corner.

They miss calls right down the middle that are perfectly framed, you can't be surprised when the catcher has to make a stab on 101 across the entire plate that they miss that, right?

Luckily, I firmly believe this team is pretty locked in and believes they can continue to have success as they are currently constructed. They are young and have a lot of confidence and I don't think they'll be easily broken with a quiet deadline.