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Pickles

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  1. What am I getting?

    That's the only real answer to the question.

    It's easy to say they won't trade any of the top 4, but if they could get MIller with a package centered around Kjerstad, they'd almost certainly do it.

    It's very likely they won't trade any of the top 4.

    I agree with @Three Run Homer, I think they've been showcasing Norby and Stowers because that's the level of prospect they're willing to part with.

  2. 4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    And then they mention Betts and Bellinger, who were drafted even later (so three of the eight he mentioned were not first round picks).

    It wasn't a bad listen and I do appreciate the link but they aren't making really strong statements.

    Are you a lawyer?

    Because you really missed your calling if not.

    And I mean no disrespect to you or lawyers.

  3. 4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

    Some people are more interested in the title than actually discussing the story.  Apparently our scout Jennings was onto him since his junior year.

    https://www.masnsports.com/blog/hearing-about-henderson-from-scout-who-signed-him#:~:text=Scout David Jennings was on,were on the clock again.

    Hadn't seen that article before.  That scout deserves a bonus.

    From the article I posted, there was an Astros scout pushing hard to draft Gunnar before we got the chance.  We were very lucky to get a shot at drafting him.

  4. 2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    They did, but I'm pretty sure that title is meant to imply that all the other MLB teams passed on him.  Which they themselves mention didn't happen.

    They're in the media.  Ipso facto, they're not that smart.  I wouldn't read that much into it.  They're just emphasizing that it's very rare for a 2nd round pick to be a superstar by the age of 22.

  5. 1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Thanks for the link.

    I guess since the O's drafted Henderson with their second pick they count as being one of the 29 teams to pass on him?

    That's a poor title for the article.

    Well, I guess technically they did.

    They were very lucky to get him when they did.

    Another tidbit from the article was the O's had him rated far higher than where they actually took him.

  6. Interesting little article I came across on Yahoo about the draft process for Gunnar, with insight from other front offices and scouts.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/how-did-29-mlb-teams-pass-on-orioles-superstar-gunnar-henderson-203049351.html

    Among may interesting tidbits here's one I was unaware of:

    Henderson says Baltimore hadn’t contacted him or his agent before the draft. Such an approach is actually common practice for a number of teams, who use the tactic to retain leverage. For Henderson, it was a wonderful surprise.

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  7. Just now, Sports Guy said:

    Agreed, that was my concern in many of his starts this year, even the ones that were good in the minors.

    The question I have after finally seeing him, is the stuff good enough at this level that if he throws more strikes, it won’t get hit hard?

    I didn’t see much.  Decent curveball at times but the fastball is pretty underwhelming.  Seems to be a pitch they will get hammered in the zone the more people see him.

    It was his first start and he had some bad luck, so I’m not writing him off or anything but this start didn’t give me some immense hope that he can step into the rotation and be an answer.  Maybe his next start will make me feel that way.

     

    HIs fastball got some swings and misses.  Just a pure velo reading on that is misleading.  He's got some deception and length.

    Like you though, I don't see an immediate contributor or difference maker.

    He doesn't throw enough quality strikes.  He didn't today, and he hasn't in the MiLs.

    He's got to tighten up his command/control.

  8. 2 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

    Only two hard-hit balls given up, both to Vlad. Lot of uncompetitive curveballs but the ones in or near the zone were good. The overall line was rough but there's good stuff to work with here.

    It's kind of a glass half full vs half empty situation.

    He wasn't super hittable, but he didn't throw nearly enough strikes.

  9. 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

    I was pretty underwhelmed.  He did let up a lot of soft contract, which is good but I wasn’t blown away by his stuff.  His command and control wasn’t great…didn’t miss many bats. Lacked Ks.

    Still, I would give him at least one more start although that would be against Atlanta and that could be tough.

    He simply can't be successful throwing that many balls.

  10. It appears his day is over.

    5.1 IP

    6 ER

    4 BB

    2 K

    Stuff looked pretty good,  He's definitely not easy to hit, but he didn't throw enough strikes imo to be effective.

    58 strikes out of 100 pitches

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

    Nah, Mateo will be back soon. Norby is not going to be an everyday starter. He could be a platoon bat and go from there. They will also keep trying to get Mullins and Hays going. 

    I'm a little surprised Hays isn't in there tonight.  He has started to come on strong.

  12. 3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Ummmm

    Yes, and if you read one more post I clearly state they're better than Ortiz.

    I should have said nobody matches Ortiz except for those guys or something.

    My point was Bradfield and Beavers aren't as valuable as Ortiz at the point of trade.

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  13. 41 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    You said Ortiz was in the range of Basallo. That’s completely laughable.  They aren’t even close. 
     

    Bradfield has been in the range of Ortiz, as some have him just inside the top 100 and some don’t. Now, a few places did place Ortiz higher than any spot Bradfield has been but it took a while for Ortiz to be ranked and Bradfield not so much.

    Beavers will be there soon enough and since Beavers is much younger, they definitely could value Beavers as much or more than a guy like Ortiz…especially a team that’s far away.

    I said nothing of the sort.

    You can project all you want, but as of now, neither Bradfield nor Beavers are as valuable as Ortiz was last off-season.  That's not to mention D.L. Hall.

    You're not getting a Burnes type pitcher with a deal headlined by either of those guys as of now.

  14. 3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Huh?  

    Guys like Bradfield and Beavers aren't as valuable as Ortiz was last year.

    Right now we have 3 prospects rated at or better (and they are all better) than Ortiz last year: Mayo, Basallo, and Kjerstad.

    Can we afford to deal one of those three for another rental TOR this off-season?  

    As of today, I wouldn't feel great about that.

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  15. 2 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

    Agreed. The question is what Bradfield/Beavers might get us 9-10 months from now, as they progress and other guys graduate. I think Ortiz was actually the second piece in the Burnes deal... But regardless both Hall and Ortiz were both in the bottom half of the top 100, a level below Mayo/Basallo. I'm just not going to hold my breath on a Burnes/Cole type signing. Even with our new owners there is always going to be teams who can outbid us. The guy I'd really covet is Roki Sasaki but appears the Dodgers have the inside track.

    I don't think those guys are going to get you anything near TOR.

    I don't think we can afford to annually give up a couple top 100 prospects for a rental TOR- at least not yet.

    Plenty were willing to part w Cowser last year, but how would we feel about our OF situation this year, and going forward, without Cowser in the mix?

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