Pickles

Well, I won't argue semantics, and we can agree to disagree, but his swing does not look smooth to me, and it's easy to see why people question the power potential.

I did. Watch it again. He's out on his front foot. And his hands aren't moving in concert with his hips.

Excellent post.

Sounds like a headliner for Cease to me.

You like winning better than losing? Crazy talk. Definitely needs to be stated aloud.

We have 15 per page. I remember back in the day when it was 25 at least.

Is it roughly the same amount of posts per page? That's pretty funny that it is so parallel.

Someone more clever than I should coin a new term more appropriate for our age and update the "hot stove league" to something referencing the computer and these online communities.

How many pages is the Soxtalk thread at?

The White Sox will get nothing close to that rumored deal from us or anyone else. If Bowden thinks that gets it done, and the White Sox are currently being "unreasonable", what in the f are they asking for now?

I almost made a similar post. I haven't seen Ortiz enough, though I was impressed in a SSS last year, but unless Mateo has seriously declined (and I share the opinion with you that he hasn't, that his slippage last year was mostly about comfort) if Ortiz is better than Mateo has played the last two years for us, I'll be thrilled.

Santander is physically limited out there, especially in regards to speed, but he takes good routes, catches everything, and has a solid arm. Cowser is obviously a lot more tooled up, but I was disappointed in his routes and his throwing arm- not the strength, that was better than I thought tbh, but his mechanics in receiving and releasing the ball led to several bad/inaccurate throws. I know you've probably seen him more than any of us on this board, and I respect your opinion. I have little doubt in the long run it will turn out to be correct. But, as of last year, I felt more comfortable with Santander in RF than Cowser, and I'd like to see improvement from Cowser before I changed my opinion.

From what I saw last year, Santander is a better RF than Cowser at the present moment.

Maybe even Dylan Cease.

You saw what they asked the Reds was a bunch of 19,20,21 year old pitching prospects, who admittedly are highly regarded, but they're still just that: Very young pitching prospects. Then shake the dust off your feet, and go be about that. But I'm not going to devalue the prospects I hold in my hand because they're 24,25 years old and major league ready, most of them kicking the door down. Again, quite the opposite.

Why? That's exactly what Elias did.

Ok, then by that standard they don't want major league ready prospects. Terrific. I've said it from day one. Then f off and play with the A ball boys and see how that works out for you. In my world, where the sky is blue, you don't devalue a prospect because he's major league ready. Quite the opposite in fact.

No, because I wanted his service time to align with when we were good as much as possible.

I'm confident the O's aren't losing money. Now or in 2021. And if they were, there would not have been Gibson and Frazier on that team. Again, though, the premise breaks down just logically analyzing it. This guy is worth less to the WS because their owner sucks. Ok, great. First, sounds like everybody is going to be worth less. Second, not my problem. Third, cry me a river. We did it with Angelos in a much tougher environment.

They're getting more than 40$ a head.

But your answers are stupid. They don't make basic logical sense. Winning with a cheap team is better than losing with a cheap team for your bottom line. Joey Ortiz is cheap and will be for a very long time. If Joey Ortiz can help you win, he's absolutely a guy a team in their position would target. Winning as soon as possible is in their best financial interest. That doesn't mean spending money on free agents is, but winning asap is very much in their best financial interest, and they know it. Do you think the Angelos family made more money in 2023 or 2021?

Again, why wouldn't they want to contend as soon as possible? At least with cheap players like Joey Ortiz? He makes sense for any team that wants a cheap SS option with a lot of upside and a very high floor.

Ok, then we don't need to give any weight to what some jackasses on the White Sox board are saying. Ortiz makes a ton of sense for them.

Answer me this Mr. Rickey: Why did you spend 4 years screaming "It doesn't need to take this long!" if you give weight to the premise that the White Sox aren't going to be relevant for four years?

Elias would have had his team in the playoffs in year 3 in the AL Central. And that's starting from a much, much worse position than the White Sox are in right now.