Pickles

They're getting more than 40$ a head.

But your answers are stupid. They don't make basic logical sense. Winning with a cheap team is better than losing with a cheap team for your bottom line. Joey Ortiz is cheap and will be for a very long time. If Joey Ortiz can help you win, he's absolutely a guy a team in their position would target. Winning as soon as possible is in their best financial interest. That doesn't mean spending money on free agents is, but winning asap is very much in their best financial interest, and they know it. Do you think the Angelos family made more money in 2023 or 2021?

Again, why wouldn't they want to contend as soon as possible? At least with cheap players like Joey Ortiz? He makes sense for any team that wants a cheap SS option with a lot of upside and a very high floor.

Ok, then we don't need to give any weight to what some jackasses on the White Sox board are saying. Ortiz makes a ton of sense for them.

Answer me this Mr. Rickey: Why did you spend 4 years screaming "It doesn't need to take this long!" if you give weight to the premise that the White Sox aren't going to be relevant for four years?

Elias would have had his team in the playoffs in year 3 in the AL Central. And that's starting from a much, much worse position than the White Sox are in right now.

They also don't have the NYY, TOR, Red Sox, and Rays in their division either. F them. I have no sympathy for them.

I mean SG seems to be accepting their premise, and saying they won't be "relevant for four years," which is ironic because he spent years screaming, "It doesn't need to take this long!" as Mike Elias turned the team around in.... checks notes.... four years.

He's not a good fit or something. For reasons unexplained or unexplainable.

Yeah, that's bonkers and they will get nothing close to that.

I find it hilarious that you of all people are saying they won't be relevant for 4 years when you routinely scalded Mike Elias and insisted it "doesn't need to take this long!" despite the fact that he turned this team around in..... wait for it.... four years. Using that logic, nobody makes sense for them because they'll be "well into their service time." Unless they want to play with 19 year olds in A ball. I've said from the beginning if they're that stupid, they should stop wasting our time.

I don't see how that's true. If he's what he projects to be, he's perfect for them.

None. #5 is the best for the Orioles imo.

Sure. If the Orioles had made a move today that wasn't about "getting better baseball wise" but was about "money" the people describing this move as "good" would be torching it. That's a simple fact.

Would we describe a move the Orioles made that wasn't about getting better baseball-wise but only saving money as a "good" move?

Yeah you give the edge to Westburg because of his ML performance, but as prospects they're very similarly valued.

Not too much different. And all of it way too much.

Tell them you're an insider.

Yeah, but you could just put Santander or Kjerstad (or Mayo) there. There are options. It's why I went with CF. Besides Mullins, there aren't any good options.

Again, the Montgomery trade worked out well for the Rangers. It has no more bearing than the Glenn Davis trade on the relative merits of any prospective move facing the Orioles this offseason.

The first part we're starting to get into a butterfly effect that I won't attempt to unravel. Regarding the second, yeah, he probably starts game three for us. We scored one run. What are the odds he throws a shut out? Then we're out Joey Ortiz, and we didn't improve our situation at all. The Montgomery trade worked out well for the Texas Rangers. It has absolutely no bearing on any moves the Orioles should be making.

Ok, I guess we're on the same page then. I was misreading the point you were trying to make.

What's he do for the Orioles?

But you don't get to make moves with hindsight. That's reality.

In a world where Kiner-Falefa gets 2/15, Mateo has some trade value.