Pickles

This is probably a better summation of the decision than mine.

Yes, the shrill detached emotional appeals. Me: He made a bad decision there. Them: Are you saying he was scared??!?!?! Mentally weak!?!?! That's crazy!!!!!! This is not rational discourse.

You can keep using hyperbolic words and emotional appeals, but I'm going to keep you to the point: He's made some very questionable swing decisions in his at bats the last two nights. It's not ridiculous to say that. It's not crazy to say that. This is the OH, I thought. Where a 2 RBI double if it's down on a bad swing and a bad count should be recognized as such. And an AB in the 9th where you get outclassed should be called as such. I didn't know we had to get emotionally invested like cheerleaders.

Hahahahahahahaha. Scared! Mentally weak! Crazy! Sticking! Calm your female language down, son. Dude swung at two terrible strike ones. You can project your freudian reasons upon it all you want; I'm not doing that. I'm stating facts: He swung at two terrible strike ones. These are bad hitting decisions.

Mentally weak? Why are you making this some emotional thing?

He made up his mind to swing before the 0-0 pitch, and he made up his mind to not swing before the 2 strike pitch.

I hope he gets that start too.

This is where I point out he had two ABs and swung at two first pitches, which were both breaking balls, low and away, and well outside the strike zone, the second bouncing in the dirt. Those are the kind of bad decisions I am talking about.

No, but has to do with the probability he is going to make the catch.

Kemp is not long for the roster one way or another. There will be injuries. Between injuries and non-performance I expect to need 2-3 bodies this season. It's possible they DFA a guy like O'Hearn. I wouldn't expect them to cut much deeper than that, just reallocate playing time.

I didn't even know you could view twitter as a non-member. Whenever I visit the homepage, it asks me to make an account. Though I do seem to be able to view Twitter links that people post. Just a friendly suggestion: 2024 might not be the year to join Twitter.

I"ve seen little to suggest this org won't make quick adjustments. Yes, are they going to give a guy like O'Hearn some rope after his performance and contributions last year? Sure. But if he's hitting .220 in May, he will be losing at-bats. I think a great example is Mullins in 2022. He was coming off his breakout 30-30 season; he was about the brightest light in a dreadful period. And they didn't hesitate to both move him down in the order and to curtail his playing time against lefties when he struggled in 2022.

Has Frobby started to use Twitter? That's two tweets posted today. I fear for your mental health. To the thread, I was actually just thinking about this last night. I hate to pull up baseball reference home page right now because there's nothing to look at besides a bunch of numbers that have very little meaning. I'll start to put some weight into the numbers after about a month.

Is that why everyone here keeps calling me a giant dick?

Well, my avatar has caused great offense around here at times.

Well, I have MLB.tv, but the condensed games there are just the broadcast television cameras. What I'm referring to is on NFL.com you can get game file that doesn't just recreate the broadcast cameras, but is actually filmed from the bird's eye view and allows you to see all 22 players at once, thus why it's called All-22 film, as opposed to the tv broadcast where you can't see the defensive secondary. It really reveals just how much you miss from the TV broadcast. I'm almost positive it doesn't exist, but I would like game film that you could review that would show the entire defensive alignment at the moment of contact; I.e. you could actually see the jump he OFers are getting. I think it would put this data into perspective.

This is all interesting stuff to contemplate. I wish we could get film of the games like you can get the All-22 film of NFL broadcasts. It really opens up so much.

That's fascinating to me, and I'm not sure I buy it. Now you have to watch the replay because the live stream is not focused on the fielder for the first second or so, but Santander made a direct beeline to that ball on Monday. He's not fast, but he takes very good, direct routes and that was a great example of that. Cowser's catch yesterday he does not take a direct route to the ball. He goes back first (which is the right thing to do, other than making a direct beeline to where the ball is going to land) and and then he went east-west to the ball. Not to take away anything from him, that was a fine catch, but I don't buy the 60% probability. I have little doubt Hays would have caught it, and Hays is not the rangiest LFer.

Again, I'm not the one who is "upset" or "crying." I'm defending my original position, quite well, thank you very much. I shouldn't have used the word "atrocious." Other than that, you basically agree with me.

Who said I was upset? I made a fairly milquetoast original post and had 5 people take great offense that I used the word "atrocious" instead of "poor" or "less than ideal."

Again, if people want to dispute the semantics, ok, whatever.

Hitting is extraordinarily difficult. That's beyond dispute.

Right, but I'd be criticizing him if he'd swung at the first pitch he thought he could weakly ground to 2b to get the runner over. That's not good desicion making either, at least not in that game situation.

What am I wrong about? Be specific. The only thing I've been "wrong" about is a silly semantic point.

Not all strikes are equal. We should all acknowledge this was a "pitcher's pitch." And he was in a "hitter's count." He didn't need to swing at all. I'm sure part of their discussions about this involves the idea of not swinging at pitcher's pitches until the count dictates that you must.