ChosenOne21
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I would honestly rather keep Chris Davis on the off chance we can save some money due to a COVID-shortened 2021 season than keep Renato Nunez. Optimistically, Nunez is a one-win DH who is probably going to get between $2 and $3 million in arbitration. You can kick a tree and a half-dozen Nunez-type players fall out, most of whom can be had for league minimum or near to it. Pretty sure DJ Stewart can be a one-win DH for league minimum--it's really not hard to find these guys.
And spare me the "35 homers" stuff. Have you already forgotten Mark Trumbo and how little value he had for us?
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Anyone here actually think Nunez would have been a part of our next competitive team? The guy was optimistically a one-win DH. There's no reason to spend more than league minimum on that
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2 hours ago, Frobby said:
Personally, I’m not sure we’ll see Rutschman in 2021. But perhaps we will.
My guess is as soon as we get the extra year of control in 2022, provided that's still a thing by then
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56 minutes ago, Frobby said:
That’s really up to individual businesses to decide. I do suspect that there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people without college degrees who are better educated than many people who have a college degree. And, there are many jobs that may require intelligence and specific training but don’t require knowledge of many things people study in college. But businesses can decide for themselves what their criteria are.
Of course businesses can do what they want. I'm saying as a society we should put forward some better methods to help businesses determine who is qualified that don't cost four years and $40,000+ per person
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21 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Even outside of his field of study you have jobs that just require a degree not a specific degree.
Yeah, and that's a problem. These places want to use college degrees as a proxy for determining if someone is a reliable, responsible adult. As a society, there has to be a better, cheaper alternative than asking people to spend four years in the prime of their life and $40,000+ dollars getting otherwise useless degrees
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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
I think he'll be ok.
Oh, of course he will be. I just feel bad for the people in that program who don't have professional athlete abilities
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9 hours ago, Tony-OH said:
I'm sorry, but that just cracked me up after reading the other poster's rant about his education that will "last for a lifetime".
I really hope he got a full ride, because that degree doesn't look like it's worth the paper its printed on
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27 minutes ago, scOtt said:
Similar to us fans on the Andrew Miller trade. Granted that was bigger and Eduardo turned out to be a major loss. But we gave up decent prospects for a pitcher who only helped marginally the year of the trade, then gone.
Nah, ERod was a much better prospect than either of the guys we got from the Braves. And unlike Tommy Milone, Andrew Miller was a huge asset for us that year
I wouldn't call either of the guys we got from the Braves, Greiner or Welk "decent prospects." Some of them are arguably prospects, but not anything to be even a little excited about- 1
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Yeah, I saw some article about how pissed Braves fans must be seeing what they gave up for Tommy Milone, and I almost did a double take. I mean, if we gave away Toby Welk and slightly better Cadyn Greiner for nothing I wouldn't be happy about it, but upset/pissed would be far too strong of a word to describe my feelings
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4 hours ago, wildcard said:
Tony LaRussa was just name White Sox manager. Ruben Amaro Jr is a candidate for the Angels GM. Jerry Dipoto is the Mariner GM. We'll see who values homers and RBI. Especially on the cheap. 30 homers for 2M might be enticing.
Not everyone in the game is a young analytics only guy.
Tony LaRussa isn't building the White Sox roster. Amaro Jr. hasn't been a GM in over five years. Dipoto is totally an analytics guy. Angels' owner Arte Moreno said that "one of the reasons we hired Jerry is that I really liked the way he viewed baseball analytics."
You don't have to be a young analytics guy to realize that the game is much more complicated than the numbers you find on the back of a baseball card. We've known that since at least the 80s
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3 hours ago, wildcard said:
Some team may just be looking to increase their home run totals and Nunez projects to hit 30 or more. The 90 RBI in 2019 also could be attractive to a team.
I don't think a single MLB team thinks like this anymore. They might say something like that in a press release or interview to sell it to the average fan, but there's no way the guys building the roster are talking about bringing in guys to "increase homers and RBIs"
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I know this is a little controversial, but to me the whole point of a college degree is to help you earn more money. Kjerstad has already earned enough money to live more than comfortably for the rest of his life if he never swings the bat once as a professional. But maybe Kjerstad disagrees with me and sees inherent value in completing college. It's his life. As long as the Orioles are okay with it, I'm okay with it
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3 hours ago, 86this said:
Probably a good reason Mike Elias hasn't used high picks on pitchers. A "Brady Aiken" phobia.
Well, given that we picked Kjerstad over Martin so we could get Mayo and Baumler, we kiiiiinda sorta spent part of a first round pick on him
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The guy just got $5.2 million dollars. If he's smart with it, he'll never have to work a day in his life. So I guess it's up to him if he'd rather finish his (unnecessary) college degree or get an extra three week start on his pro career
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I've just been picking the option that contains the players whose names show up in the options most frequently since I don't have much of a clue anymore. It's worked pretty well so far. Personally, I'd probably have gone with Bannon/Pop, but my strategy dictated I pick Nevin/McKenna
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13 hours ago, Jagwar said:
Where was Smith ranked in the Mets' system?
IIRC different publications had him anywhere from 9th to the teens
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42 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
What has Bannon done to deserve it?
Been the best near-MLB ready 2B/3B in the organization, something Yaz never was in the outfield?
If they can find someone on waivers/trade they think is better than Bannon I'm all for it. He isn't "owed" a chance, but in the absence of better options, I'd like to see him
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I went with Rom and Smith as well, because I feel the Orioles are really down on Wells and that may have influenced Tony. My guess is Wells is either here or 19-20. I know Tony has ranked Rom relatively highly in the past and I've heard good things about Kevin Smith, so that's who I picked, but I'm less confident about this than any other pick so far
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1 minute ago, Philip said:
Yeah, there’s that as well. I’m just wondering if it says some thing about our system that the 13th prospect has such a mediocre ceiling. When we traded for him everybody seemed quite enthusiastic but This report is less so.
I doubt you can find many farm systems in MLB whose 13th prospect's likely outcome is MLB regular
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41 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:
Tony thought the same for Little Yaz, 4th OFer at best, if that.
This is not a knock on Tony.
But, its hard to really tell how these guys will mature and develope.
I don't think the Giants thought they were getting anything more than a 4th outfielder who could fill in for a while when they claimed Yaz. Seriously, I don't think even his mom saw this coming
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58 minutes ago, Philip said:
Hmmm so our #13 Prospect projects to nothing more than a utility guy?
and presumably everyone behind him has as much or less potential?
Or a higher ceiling but with a lot of risk
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I think it's got to be Mayo/Baumler here. Wells wasn't even at Bowie, and Zimmerman didn't impress. I know Tony like McKenna less than just about everyone and Hall has a few question marks as a player. Given how highly other 2020 draftees have been ranked, I'm going Mayo/Baumler since I've heard slightly better things about Mayo and FWIW he was the higher pick
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I could have sworn I heard somewhere he had COVID
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I wouldn't exercise the option until pretty much the last minute. What if he falls down the stairs, rips up the ligaments in his leg and is a giant question mark for next year? Unlikely, but why gamble with 3 million dollars any more than you have to?
Analysis of 2020 Rule 5 Eligible players
in Orioles Talk
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I care about saving money because teams have budgets and saving money gives them flexibility to operate within those budgets. Yeah, they're probably not going to spend savings on major league players this year, but so what? Truth is, neither of us know exactly where any saved money is going. We can see some of the places it isn't going, but would you be really be happier if the Orioles spent some money they saved this year on free agents to get us from like 70 wins to 73?
It's possible the money goes into the Angelos family's pockets. But it's also possible that it goes into signing more international free agents, improving infrastructure, or put into escrow until the team is ready to make a splash. Is the team more likely to make a big free agent signing if they owe Chris Davis $50 million or $60 million?
And even if they pocket it, I don't really care. It makes no difference for next year's team. So long as they're willing to spend when it pushes us over the edge, I don't care if they pinch pennies in lost seasons. People like to save money. Imagine that
Chris Davis didn't steal anything. The team offered him the money freely, knowing there was risk involved, and he took it.
There's nothing inherently valuable about 30+ homers and slugging 475-500. Players are a total package, not just their power stats. At the end of the day, you're still paying millions of dollars for a one-win DH and there's no reason to do that.
I think we both know that if Renato is a one win DH with a .310 OBP, 35 homers and a .500 slugging, and DJ Stewart is a one-win DH with a .345 OBP, 25 homers and a .450 slugging, they're still both one-win DHs and DJ Stewart does it for less money. Plus, DJ arguably has some defensive value, which is more than I can say for Nunez