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  1. 3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Honest question for you and the others that do this.

    What is the point of stuff like "Blow Jays" and "Red Sux" and "Skanees"?

    Do you think it's witty?  Do you think the fans or players somehow see it and are bothered?

    I really want to know because I've never had the slightest urge to do such a thing.

    Thanks in advance.

    If it annoyed you, then that’s reason enough! 🤣🤣

  2. 29 minutes ago, Frobby said:

    I think it would take some serious digging to figure that out.  What was average?  What was the worst, and how many guys were down there?  What was very good, and how many guys were up there?  You’d need to know what the whole curve looked like compared to today.  

    There’s a simple stat called coefficient of variation that is designed to compare variances like this. But you are definitely correct that putting the data set together would probably be pretty painful. 

  3. 5 hours ago, Frobby said:

    I am not saying it was a strategy.  Players today are better than players 50 years ago, at every position and in every sport.  As an athlete, all you can really do is be the best you can be compared to your peers.  Babe Ruth hit more home runs than entire tesms in his prime - think about that.  But if you could just teleport 1920s Ruth into the 2020’s, facing a league with pitchers averaging 94 mph, he’d probably be lucky to avoid striking out 300 times and hitting 20-30 homers tops.  What would happen if you plopped 1960s Bob Hayes into the 2024 Olympics 100 meter dash finals?   He’d probably finish last.  But that’s not how you judge athletes.  You judge them compared to their peers.   Mark Belanger was much further ahead of the shortstops of his time defensively than any modern shortstop is compared to his peers today.  And that’s why they carried his lousy bat.  

    No, I didn’t mean it was a strategy. It’s just what the WAR and other data/analysis suggests. The average and perhaps especially the weakest level of play is higher now than in that era. The variation between best and worst fielding at a position today is less than it was in that era. 

  4. 8 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

    I did not say Belanger wasn't a great defensive SS.  I said Mateo is as good.  There is no way I believe anyone would carry Belanger in today's game.  

    I think it’s true that no team would carry that weak of a hitter as a regular for years. But one of the best differences about the eras that Frobby suggested was that teams back then also carried shortstops that fielded significantly worse than the worst fielding regular of today. That’s why Belanger can have a bigger defensive WAR in that era versus Mateo last year. (Frobby ease correct me if I am wrong).  

  5. 6 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

    I listed Belanger's stats and was question how that led to a lifetime WAR of 41.  Notice the question I asked.  "I need a little help here".  Virtually every stat in baseball is stated as an average but not lifetime WAR?  Why is that?  

    Now everyone bashes Mateo's offense.  It's not any worse than the immortal Belanger.  The difference is that in today's game SS is supposed to hit.  I haven't seen anything get by Mateo that Belanger would have caught.

    First, I apologize for coming off so harsh. I do that sometimes, much to my dismay.
     

    Second, Your answer is right there in your post. Mateo had a fantastic year last year. He was worth 3.4 WAR last year when his OPS+ was 84. That’s a lot of WAR for such light hitting in this era. Belanger played for a long time. If Mateo could play that level of defense with an 84 OPS+ for the next dozen years then he would have similar value, especially if you include the relative differences in the value of defense among the eras. 

  6. 4 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

    There's been plenty of championship teams that had defensive weak spots made up for by the weak fielder's slugging.  I think there are more good fielders around today than ever in baseball.  Today's physical fitness, combined with advanced training is the reason.  

    That’s what Frobby told you in this thread! 🤣

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  7. 13 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

     I've seen them both play.  Opinions are optional.  Credibility is subjective without facts.  

    You have brought zero facts to whatever you’re trying to argue, just opinion based on supposed observations made decades ago. It’s not clear what you’re even trying to argue. Again, it just seems like you’re trolling.  Throwing shade at a former oriole just to jerk chains and get responses.  

  8. 31 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

    From your ilk that's a complement.  Frazier has 10% of Belanger's career homers in one night.  

    You asked for help understanding WAR. WAR was explained to you. Frobby even gave you the historical context of Belanger’s WAR. The rest of your posts in this thread are just dumb trolling. Attention-seeking drivel. 

  9. 6 minutes ago, MijiT88 said:

    I second this, I have always loved Hays, but I thought with the injuries he was gonna project like another favorite of mine, Reimold... So glad he is there! I also hope that him batting 7th in this lineup might make Hyde bat him higher than 5th...

    Hays has batted 1-4 31 times. 

  10. 1 hour ago, Frobby said:

    What are they really going to say?  He’s working out in Sarasota.  

    The ball is coming out of his hand real good. He's got a good look in his eye. 

     

    But seriously, some blurb about Hall's progression etc. would be interesting, even if relatively uninformative. 

  11. 9 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

    The Mets are 42-48, 18.5 games back of the Braves and 7 games back of the Giants for the last wild card spot. They should be sellers

    I had a question mark next to the Padres, because they are only 6 games back of the last wild card spot. They may not be sellers yet but they are close. 

    Yeah, but the Mets are not rationale right now. 

  12. 5 hours ago, CHIP said:

    TRADED?


    Date    Transaction
    07/07/23    Norfolk Tides placed OF Heston Kjerstad on the temporarily inactive list.

    Holy crap man! You almost gave me a heart attack (technically I guess a second heart attack). 

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  13. 48 minutes ago, Frobby said:

    Why not?   I don’t think it’s that unusual.  There are a ton of guys hitting in the .340 - .360 range in the International League this year. 

    I think the poster meant that he won’t hit .350 for a full season in the majors.  

  14. From Roch

     

    Double-A Bowie’s Coby Mayo was named Eastern League Player of the Month after batting .340 with a 1.178 OPS, eight home runs and 18 RBIs. He failed to reach base in only two of 26 games.

  15. Triple-A Norfolk’s Grayson Rodriguez was named International League Pitcher of the Month for June after going 4-0 with a 2.22 ERA in five starts. He had a 1.06 WHIP and .185 average against, and he struck out 39 batters in 28 1/3 innings.

     

    From Roch

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