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    Play by Play Announcers

    in Orioles Talk

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    No fan of Garceau. I do like Kevin Brown and Geoff Arnold.

    But it would have taken ten minutes to find out what happened at the end of the game if Manfra had been yammering and stammering, failing miserably to untie his tongue. Whenever something exciting happened, he either gurgled nonsense or there was dead air.

    The Catching Situation

    in Orioles Talk

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    7 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

    Reading comment sections open to the public is like walking around WalMart and asking people probing questions about the works of Tolstoy.  If you're expecting deep and detailed responses you're a little nuts.

    Yes, I'll concede that people with only the most superficial understanding of baseball analytics might occasionally use WAR on its own, unquestioningly.  But those are the same people who 25 years ago would tell you of course Juan Gonzalez was the best player in the league, he won the MVP award twice!

    Yet another reason why I never shop at Walmart. ?

    Funny thing: after having just railed against some people using the WARs as discussion enders, your post prompted me to refamiliarize myself with Juan G. Looks like he should never have seen the field considering his -11.6 career dWAR (bbref). Even as a 21 year old, he registered a -1.5 dWAR. That's shocking.

    The Catching Situation

    in Orioles Talk

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    7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

    That's twice now you've referenced my post.  You do understand that I was making a very simple, narrow point in reaction to what I considered an overly simple point made by another poster.

    Both myself and others have made plenty of posts about the various strengths and weaknesses of both Severino and Sisco and how they compare to other catchers.  I felt no need to go into a lengthy post in response to someone who 1- Wouldn't read it and 2- Wouldn't change their mind regardless of the evidence presented.

    OK. that's fine. I purposefully did not reference you directly a second time because I had already quoted you once. 

    For what it is worth, I think the bolded part is the most important: Severino and Sisco are the best options the Orioles currently have in their system. 

    The Catching Situation

    in Orioles Talk

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    On 4/4/2021 at 4:24 PM, DrungoHazewood said:

    Please show me some examples.  Because I hear them talked about every day in the context of the threat they are to civilization, but like bigfoot finding one is terribly challenging.

    Ha! Ever read comments on MLBTR? There is even a comment earlier in this thread that relied solely on WAR to prove a point. The comment asserted that GMs judge players according to a player's worth compared to over replacement level - as opposed to dumb fans, was the gist. I can't imagine professional baseball talent evaluators even using WAR in conversation or determining value going forward anymore with real data - Statcast data on spin, speed, movement, etc. The only time you'd hear it used nowadays by an organizational employee would be lawyers fighting arbitration cases.

    4-4 goin fer tha Sweep vs Boston!

    in Game Threads

    Posted

    Just now, ChosenOne21 said:

    Or, hopefully more success. How should we determine when leaving the starter in is turning success into tragedy?

    He was fortunate to escape the 6th inning allowing only one run while he was losing command. He was already on his third time through the order. Failure was lurking.

    4-4 goin fer tha Sweep vs Boston!

    in Game Threads

    Posted

    Cool that you don't care. But Zimmerman and Hyde and Holt and Elias all care about how Zimmerman feels - physically and emotionally - after this start.

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    If Zimmerman can't deal with that kind of adversity, he likely doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a professional athlete. 

    There is no justification for declaring that removing him from this game is  a failure of his nor management's. i don't know what got you so worked up, but you are trying to turn success into tragedy.

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    4-4 goin fer tha Sweep vs Boston!

    in Game Threads

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, ChosenOne21 said:

    Don't like pulling Zimmerman at 73 pitches. Yes, yes, I know, inning totals last year, but still

    It ensures his QS. Makes him leave on a really high note. And he will get the W unless the slim chance of the pen allowing 7 runs in 3 innings comes true. Plus this is his third MLB appearance! Use kid gloves. Build on the good.

    And if the wins and losses don't count, I can't see a reason to not protect Zimmerman.

    The Catching Situation

    in Orioles Talk

    Posted

    On 3/29/2021 at 11:18 AM, DrungoHazewood said:

    Just once I'd like to read/hear someone say that they only use Total Zone or UZR or Statcast data as the sole, indisputable measure of a player's skills.  Just once.  Because I've never heard anyone say that, but at least once a day I see someone make a point of saying they don't do that.

    Not sure I understand your point. Like dWAR, I doubt that any GM uses "Total Zone or UZR or Statcast data as the sole, indisputable measure of a player's skills."

    But there are plenty of fans who find WAR or dWAR to be discussion ending, with no nuance accepted. In other words, many use WAR or dWAR as "the sole, indisputable measure of a player's skills." That's not only dull and unintellectual, but foolish.

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