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Not sure if that's hyperbole or not, but if it's not, please tell me the 10-15 guys you would DFA before Green?

It is a bit perplexing, no doubt.

I'm not impressed with the stuff. Looks like a time a dozen AAAA reliever to me. Shake a minor league tree and 8 more Mattson's fall out.

Eshleman and Mattson are two guys that could go before either of them. Gutierre and Leyba could also be DFA'd nd we probably wouldn't lose either.

After seven days off, he threw everything a little harder and with more spin rate but his command was off. As Palmer noted last night, command guys don't do well typically with longer breaks between starts.

Urias' lack of range was highlighted in last night's game. He also didn't dive for a ball up the middle that he may have at least knocked down had he dove.

Watkins has no trade value whatsoever. He's a guy who has marginal stuff and has to have his A command to be successful. Now, if he pitches effectively until next year's trading deadline then he would have some value because he'd have a track record of success, but even then, at 29 years old, he's not the kind of arm that brings a big return. He's here to eat innings and make the most of his opportunity.

He pitches backwards, pitching off a mid 70s curveball but does throw 92-95 with the fastball. Mid 70s curveballs tend to not work as a primary pitch in the majors so I think there is some concern it won't work, but I think the Orioles are waiting to see if they move a reliever here at the deadline before bringing him up. He's earned a look for sure though.

It was a nice debut for Pinto especially considering he only has 32 professional innings under his belt. The gun was a little hot so he probably was not throwing 95-97 but more like 93-95, which is fine. His best offspeed pitch is his split change and it appeared he also threw a cutter as well that came in around 89-90 although it was tough to differentiate his cutter from his slider which same in around 86-88 (assuming the gun was hot). The slider flashed average at times, but was not consistent. He also showed a high 80s curveball that was ok. Obviously command is what he needs to work on like most young pitchers. He throws competitive pitches most of the time but once he gave up a hit on a fastball he kept shaking off from the pitch. So much so that the catcher called for a fastball, he shook him off, and then the catcher dramatically put number one down as to say, throw the damn fastball. They then had a meeting on the mound and although Pinto still shook off his catch a bunch, he did throw a bit more fastballs. I will imagine the team will want him to work on his fastball command so we may see some outings where he goes more fastball heavy which could skew his stats his bit, but there is definitely a major league arm in here. At 5-11 there's always going to be a reliever risk and there is some effort to the delivery. At 20 years old though, he's a nice additional pitching prospect.

It's absolutely insane. I wouldn't have believed it until I saw him do it.

I watched the whole game and started a thread on it.

He threw today like he did this spring. Not sure what happened to him in Norfolk. Not a lot of consistent work down there and definitely not a lot of success. I liked him in the spring and then he just imploded in AAA. Not sure they can DFA that arm though now. Anderson has to go before him.

Looks like there was a mistake and he was sent more appropriately to Aberdeen. He's starting tonight in RF for the Ironbirds.

Frobby, you are have a unique talent to look at every single sentence and find the one thing that may not be 100% correct even if its said in a quick manner. Bravo. Add in mostly before my statement if it makes you feel better!

They've been using the orange team to rehab pitchers and to give low prospect guys a chance before getting cut. It's an interesting concept.

Greene is an interesting guy to bring up. He's clearly a guy that can DFA'd once they need 40-man room but he sure has been a disappointment this year in Norfolk after having a real nice spring training. He does throw hard, but has only pitched once since June 26th. He's just an innings eater to be used in an emergency. At least there is a some good news with Bruce Zimmermann starting his rehab down in the FCL.

That velocity drop should have been a red flag.

They've been using Peralta as a starter most of the year and may continue to do so, but I think his future will end up in the pen. they need to find out whether he can pitch on back to back days if needed where he could bring his upper 90s heat. He could be a Tate replacement.

All good moves. Looking forward to putting eyes on the short right-handed Pinto to see if he's guy or not. It was time for Baumann to take that step as his command has come around of late. Always interesting when they have to pitch with the major league ball at AAA and how long it takes to adjust. Young is the most interesting of the free agent pitchers signed last year so glad to see him challenged at Aberdeen. Rom to Bowie make a lot of sense. It will be interesting to see how his stuff plays against Double-A hitters. I'm hoping they move Peralta to a reliever role and see how he looks there. It was time to see how he spins a major league ball. Vespi is really moving and it's clear the Orioles think he's close to being a big league left-handed reliever, perhaps a replacement for Scott or Fry is they are dealt. The only one missing here is Felix Bautista. While command is still not good, it's better and it's time to see what he looks like with a major league ball against more mature AAA hitters.

It would wouldn't it? He came back for two games then disappeared again. Unfortunately the Orioles are like getting secrets out of the Kremlin when it comes to injury issues for their minor leaguers. Never seen anything like it and I've gone all the way to Elias to try and get it resolved but apparently, it comes from him since I was told they are all on the same sheet of music when it comes to giving out information. Doesn't change how they are rebuilding from my perspective, but it's annoying as a guy who has covered the team for this long to need it to be leaked out or wait until they give it to their MASN guys. Fans are following the minors and the Orioles only want to feed them good news stories and propaganda. It is what it is, but it's disappointing.

Mundy has been hurt and out of the lineup lately. He's only played two games (23 and 24th) since July 15th.

Agree, I think Means and Mullins are one year away from being at top value. Means because of his health and Mullins needs to prove over more than one year.