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    Cease vs everyone else

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    1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

    Looks smooth to me.  I also think people are underestimating his power.  He might not be a 20 homer guy but he’s not a single digit homer guy either.   Looks like he has pretty good leverage in that swing.  I guess we’ll see.

    Did you look at the comments on the video?  Nobody was complimentary of the swing.

    We'll have to see, and this guy brings a ton to the diamond outside of the batter's box, but that is not a swing built to drive the ball 400 feet.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    5 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

    Hitchy to me is dropping your hands during your load and having to bring them back up before you start your swing.   To me, his swing looks great in that video.  

    Well, I won't argue semantics, and we can agree to disagree, but his swing does not look smooth to me, and it's easy to see why people question the power potential.

    Baltimore Orioles top prospects 2024: Jackson Holliday, the No. 1 prospect in baseball, leads stacked system

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    1 minute ago, Just Regular said:

    CBS RJ Anderson also had this in another piece today on players most in need of a scenery change to practice their life mastery of the game of baseball.     I had to google bletting.

    1. Joey Ortiz, SS, Orioles

    One front office source joked that this list could be composed of just Orioles prospects. It's true. The Orioles have an abundance of young position players climbing the organizational depth chart. They have only so many roster spots and at-bats to hand out, however, and they're nearing that gray area between bletting and wasting. We suspect that sooner or later they're going to consolidate some of that excess into an impact big-league player.

    If that happens -- when that happens -- it shouldn't surprise anyone if Ortiz is part of the outgoing package. That's no knock against him. The Orioles just have more than their fair share of talented young shortstops, ranging from Gunnar Henderson to Jackson Holliday. Ortiz is expendable as a result. Given the barren state of the free-agent and trade markets for shortstops, we have to believe that whatever team lands him will be thrilled with the outcome.

    Ortiz is a talented defender capable of pulling off web gems. The Orioles primarily deployed him at second base during his big-league stay, but there's no doubt he's capable of manning the six. He didn't show much offensively during that 15-game stretch, yet his performance in Triple-A suggests he has something to offer at the dish. Indeed, Ortiz hit more than 45% of his batted balls over 95 mph. Although he's never going to be a big home-run hitter -- his average launch angle was 8.5 degrees -- he should be able to collect enough hits and walks to avoid being viewed as the modern Jack Wilson. 

    Sounds like a headliner for Cease to me.

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    Cease vs everyone else

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    Just now, Frobby said:

    Some of the guys at Soxtalk are really going off the deep end and clutching at straws.  They’re actually citing Jim Bowden as an authority because he’s a “former GM!”   I was tempted to respond, but already said I wouldn’t post again unless there was a very concrete rumor of a specific deal, or an actual deal.   

    How many pages is the Soxtalk thread at?

    Orioles 2024 Best defensive combination

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    26 minutes ago, Frobby said:

    If all I cared about was defense, I might put Mateo at SS and move Ortiz to 2B.  Mateo was the Fielding Bible winner in 2022, deservedly so, and though he clearly slipped last year, I feel that was due to not playing every day, not because he lost any ability.  And even if Gunnar or Ortiz might be a slightly better SS as of 2024, this alignment gets all three on the field at the same time at positions where they can be plus or plus plus.  

    By the way, as evidence of my theory on Mateo, through 72 games he was +6 Rdrs and +4.6 UZR.   The rest of the season, when he started playing more sporadically, he was -4 Rdrs and -1.1 UZR.

    Needless to say, this is all academic, since Mateo’s offense is so bad and unreliable.  But the exercise was solely about defense.  
     

    I almost made a similar post.  I haven't seen Ortiz enough, though I was impressed in a SSS last year, but unless Mateo has seriously declined (and I share the opinion with you that he hasn't, that his slippage last year was mostly about comfort) if Ortiz is better than Mateo has played the last two years for us, I'll be thrilled.

    Orioles 2024 Best defensive combination

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    27 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

    Santander may have improved last year from his previous two years, but he was still -1 OOA and -3 FRV. 

    I know everyone wants to remember a few plays by Cowser in the outfield and want to say he's a bad defender, but I've seen him a ton in the minors and he's going to be a very good corner outfielder and adequate CF fill in.

    Santander is physically limited out there, especially in regards to speed, but he takes good routes, catches everything, and has a solid arm.

    Cowser is obviously a lot more tooled up, but I was disappointed in his routes and his throwing arm- not the strength, that was better than I thought tbh, but his mechanics in receiving and releasing the ball led to several bad/inaccurate throws.

    I know you've probably seen him more than any of us on this board, and I respect your opinion.  I have little doubt in the long run it will turn out to be correct.  But, as of last year, I felt more comfortable with Santander in RF than Cowser, and I'd like to see improvement from Cowser before I changed my opinion.

    Orioles 2024 Best defensive combination

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    46 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

    We've been discussing in multiple threads who fits where best defensively. So without taking the bats into consideration, and only going off the current 40-man roster, this is the best defensive team the Orioles can put on the field to start 2024. Just a note, a player can only be in one position so in the case of Joey Ortiz where he would be the best shortstop and second baseman, he can only be one.

    1B: Ryan Mountcastle 
    2B: Jordan Westburg
    SS: Joey Ortiz
    3B: Gunnar Henderson
    C : Adley Rutschman
    LF: Austin Hays
    CF: Cedric Mullins
    RF: Colton Cowser

    Now there is going to be some argument that Gunnar Henderson is the best defensive shortstop, and by arm strength alone, they would be right, but I've seen enough quickness, smoothness and consistency from Joey Ortiz that he would be preference at SS, especially since Henderson is by and far the best defensive 3B.


     

     

    From what I saw last year, Santander is a better RF than Cowser at the present moment.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    Just now, Sports Guy said:

    Well Frobby’s point was, why do you want Kjerstad if he’s almost 25 too. It’s a fair point although his ceiling is higher and is less of a risk.

    Basallo or Mayo are far better targets for them but yea, they can go F themselves on that one.

     

    You saw what they asked the Reds was a bunch of 19,20,21 year old pitching prospects, who admittedly are highly regarded, but they're still just that: Very young pitching prospects.

    Then shake the dust off your feet, and go be about that.

    But I'm not going to devalue the prospects I hold in my hand because they're 24,25 years old and major league ready, most of them kicking the door down.  Again, quite the opposite.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    18 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    And there you have it. 

    Ok, then by that standard they don't want major league ready prospects.

    Terrific.  I've said it from day one.  Then f off and play with the A ball boys and see how that works out for you.

    In my world, where the sky is blue, you don't devalue a prospect because he's major league ready.  Quite the opposite in fact.

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    Cease vs everyone else

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    12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Profit?

    I'm not confident they are.

     

    I'm confident the O's aren't losing money.  Now or in 2021.  And if they were, there would not have been Gibson and Frazier on that team.

    Again, though, the premise breaks down just logically analyzing it.

    This guy is worth less to the WS because their owner sucks.

    Ok, great.  First, sounds like everybody is going to be worth less.  Second, not my problem.  Third, cry me a river.  We did it with Angelos in a much tougher environment.

     

    Cease vs everyone else

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    12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    I don't know.

    Payroll was between 31-40M lower in 2021.  They drew 1M more in 2023.  How much do the O's net per filled seat? 

    I'm sure revenue was higher in 2023, profits...I don't know.

    They're getting more than 40$ a head.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Are you seriously asking me that same question again?  Maybe you disagree and think Reinsdorf will be different and that’s fine…but stop asking me the same question when I have been very clear with my answer.

    Personally, I think they should see their garbage division and look to contend in 2026. With the new draft rules, it doesn’t make sense to tank for more than a year or 2.(I don’t think it made sense under the old rules either but whatever)

    I just don’t think Reinsdorf will see it that way. 

    But your answers are stupid.  They don't make basic logical sense.

    Winning with a cheap team is better than losing with a cheap team for your bottom line.  Joey Ortiz is cheap and will be for a very long time.  If Joey Ortiz can help you win, he's absolutely a guy a team in their position would target.

    Winning as soon as possible is in their best financial interest.  That doesn't mean spending money on free agents is, but winning asap is very much in their best financial interest, and they know it.

    Do you think the Angelos family made more money in 2023 or 2021?

    Cease vs everyone else

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    Just now, Sports Guy said:

    No he doesn’t..unless they want to contend sooner.

    Otherwise, he doesn’t make sense for them.

    He makes a lot more sense for the Marlins. That is the team we really need to be talking to.

    Again, why wouldn't they want to contend as soon as possible?  At least with cheap players like Joey Ortiz?

    He makes sense for any team that wants a cheap SS option with a lot of upside and a very high floor.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

    I already explained this very clearly. I’m not saying it should take that long or it needs to take that long. 
     

    Im saying their owner will soak up profits for as long as possible and draw this out as long as possible. He’s as awful as Angelos is in many ways and he will disguise the need to take 4-5 years “like the Astros and Orioles” as a way to steal money from the fans.

    I also said if that’s not the case and they want to compete in 2026(like they should), that Ortiz would then make sense for them.

    Ok, then we don't need to give any weight to what some jackasses on the White Sox board are saying.  Ortiz makes a ton of sense for them.

    Cease vs everyone else

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    45 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Your inability to comprehend simple things doesn’t mean it wasn’t explained to you.

    Answer me this Mr. Rickey: Why did you spend 4 years screaming "It doesn't need to take this long!" if you give weight to the premise that the White Sox aren't going to be relevant for four years?

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