EddeeEddee
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I hated that Bradish got pulled, but I understand it.
I am a bit surprised it's not caused a lot of controversy here since because Hyde usually gets heat on his pitcher management. But I guess limiting the pitch count of a no-hit bid a starter who began the season hurt isn't really controversial.
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Mateo's offense has made up some of the difference of Mullins' awful slump and Santander's near disappearance of plate discipline.
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Fedde has been good this season. It's not like he suddenly pitched well only against the O's.
But yes, the Orioles are not hitting very well. It's not about first pitches, it's about guys swinging at too many pitches out of the zone -- especially Santander but others too. Still there are some hopeful signs -- like some guys drawing more walks and being a bit more patient overall. The team just seems to be slumping a bit, maybe especially on the road -- not anything they can't break out of.
I'm more concerned as usual about the bullpen and the health of the starting staff.
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5 minutes ago, Phil Beckett said:
I must not of?
ok
do you read palms too?
i’m kind of laughing how everyone is trying to convince me the Orioles aren’t cheap.
Wait, you started talking about promoting all the young guys. The young guys are the cheap ones, so getting younger overall goes with the team staying cheap.
I think most here are with you about spending more money on high quality veterans -- in part because playing mainly prospects doesn't by itself make a team better. Not all the young guys will become elite performers, and some of those who will aren't yet ready for big leagues.
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3 hours ago, Phil Beckett said:
Nope
Bring up the young guys. I’d rather see them fail than some of these other guys fail. And I’m an old Orioles fan and I’ve watched the Orioles turn into one of the best teams in the league to a cheap team. Hard to get rid of old attitudes.
Its as if they’re afraid to bring the young bucks up because then they might have to pay them good money when they start doing well. Some of these guys are 25 years old.You must have not heard Jackson Holliday was promoted and not noticed Kyle Stowers in the lineup recently.
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2 hours ago, DocJJ said:
1. With the exception of Henderson and Rutschman, the entire team can't hit.
2. Ailing starters: Means, Rodriguez, Wells, Kremer....
3. The volatile (and largely ineffective) bullpen.
I think all 3 are reasons for concern. For me, the bullpen seems like the weakest link. I am starting to worry a bit about how many starting pitchers have had ailments- I'd put that 2nd. The hitting totally stinks the past few weeks- but hitting can be very streaky sometimes... It may turn around at least for some of them....
You don't think Cowser, O'Hearn and Westburg can hit? Tough crowd. Even Mateo is having a good year at the plate.
But yeah veterans like Mullins, Santander, McCann and Urias have been really struggling.
Still, I'm most concerned about the bullpen and all the injuries to pitchers.
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4 minutes ago, Flash- bd said:
I was trying to make a bit of a joke based on an argument I had seen the other day, but I never was the best humorist.
For the record, I agree.
Yeah I knew you were, and I was trying to respond with something of a joke in kind, that perhaps was funnier to me than the masses.
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1 minute ago, Flash- bd said:
Since we're in the game thread, I think it's about time we debate in heated fashion who deserves the game ball, no? Should it go to Mateo for his fine game, or to Kimbrel / the ump for the final outs?
Definitely Mateo. You know the Orioles are going through a tough stretch when a Jorge Mateo three run homer is the key offensive moment.
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2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
Have you seen Darren O’Day lately? Never mind.
No I have not, isn't he retired?
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Heasley makes Baumann look like Darren O'Day.
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I just posted this Athletic article in the Jackson Holliday 2024 thread. It talks about how the jump from AAA to big league pitching has gotten harder.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5481059/2024/05/09/mlb-top-hitting-prospects-majors/
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Here's an interesting article in The Athletic about how the jump from AAA to big league pitching is probably more difficult this season than in past seasons. Holliday is far from the only one who has struggled with the transition.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5481059/2024/05/09/mlb-top-hitting-prospects-majors/
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1 hour ago, EdwinRip said:
The last thing we need is another outfielder. We actually need to trade away outfielders so a Kjerstad can play. Look what Ortiz is doing for the brewers. The answer is in front of our faces.
Sooner or later we need to trade away outfielders to get a good outfielder that can both play centerfield everyday and hit. I've always been among Mullins' biggest champions but everyone's patience is running thin. Maybe Hays can take over CF against righties, but what have we seen from him lately other than another stint on the IL and some vague sign of offense?
Mullins will and should be given many more chances to get things right, but the latest slump is worrisome for now and the future.
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A few of us were arguing in the offseason this team needed an extra outfielder, mainly a centerfielder, in case Mullins or someone else struggled or got hurt again like last season.
Gunnar, Adley and Westburg have settled in nicely, but it appears we can't expect all the young guys to adjust so well. Cowser was great for awhile but has shown himself to have some large growing pains the past few weeks. Meanwhile, the veterans in the outfield have all had their struggles.
Aaron Hicks played unexpectedly well last season, and a veteran presence out there in lieu of Mullins slumping badly is maybe what this team needs. Hopefully that's all this team needs out there this season.
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Just now, RZNJ said:
Ouch! Right down the middle. What a contrast in at bats. Westburg rarely has a bad one. Cowser has some head scratchers. Sitting on a slider 1-2. Really?
He has insane skills and potential but he's such a flawed player. He has to at least hit a ground ball on that 10th inning strike 3 down the middle of the plate. Worried he's a AAAA+ player until further notice.
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Cowser totally bombed. All he had to do was hit a ground ball to score the runner and third and he looked at a strike down the middle of the plate. Easy to see why he's got detractors.
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I think it was the 1997 team that had Mussina, Erickson, Key...
Could be this staff is the best since the 80s but we'll have to wait and see. I'm not ready to say it's close to better than the dynasty staffs of the 60s through the early 80s. Those teams didn't just have good individual years but many years strung together. That's what the O's haven't had in so long and need to get back to.
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That's the problem with Santander this year so far. Pitchers can get him to swing at balls, especially right handed pitchers.
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1 minute ago, Roy Firestone said:
its like EVERY game we do this...we cant take any big lead to relax...
We just don't have the bullpen we had last season without Bautista, Hall and Wells.
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23 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:
I hate the six man rotation. Pick your top five and pitch them as much as you can. Keep as many arms in the bullpen as possible.
Yeah I get it. Not ideal, and I'm not thinking long term. It's just I could see them trying to limit starts and innings for Bradish, Means and Rodriguez.
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1 minute ago, spiritof66 said:
No. I want to see him in a game with a big lead or a big deficit. I realize we're not seeing a lot of those, but too bad.
Well you'll have to get an outfield seat and have a chat with Mr Splash.
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3 minutes ago, justD said:
Does this mean his issue is mental?!?
Perhaps "mental" as in his confidence takes hit after he gives up a big hit, causing him to nibble and walk guys.
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I get the idea of Kimbrel pitching in the 7th or 8th. If they think he still has something left then it could help his confidence, taking the closer pressure off for awhile. I'm still a bit skeptical, but does anyone want to see him in the 9th inning right now?
The game I grew up with...
in Orioles Talk
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I miss the combo high OBP and high baseball IQ of players like Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn. And I miss the crazy baserunning of guys like Rickey Henderson and Pete Rose (two very different players I know).
Maybe these kinds of players are making something of comeback with the likes of Luis Arraez and Mookie Betts.
Just get us out of the high strikeout rate/high home run rate era.