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20 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Why do I have a feeling that this might crash and burn massively?

This is literally impossible.  It is a rule 5 pick.  Back away from the cliff.  If the guy doesn't work out, you offer him back.

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Just now, Number5 said:

This is literally impossible.  It is a rule 5 pick.  Back away from the cliff.  If the guy doesn't work out, you offer him back.

I think because we do little else in the offseason up to this point, this is magnified. I don't think he is on a cliff.

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1 minute ago, Number5 said:

This is literally impossible.  It is a rule 5 pick.  Back away from the cliff.  If the guy doesn't work out, you offer him back.

Yeah, pretty much. This is pretty much what I thought last year, even thought I thought Rickard was the better pick. Only time will tell, I guess. 

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7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Did anyone expect the Oriole to get someone who profiled as a regular ML outfielder in 2016 from the rule 5 draft?

 

Interesting that the O's said they would be focusing on defensive outfielders and Santander looks like a corner guy with power and Tavarez, despite some speed, has got very high error totals for an outfielder and almost as many errors as assists which is a bad sign statistically.

No, but don't the Orioles have enough 4th/5th outfielders in Rickard, Reimold, Alvarez and Flaherty who can fill in out there? Santander actually looks like a guy I'd like to have in the system to see if last year was him finally getting it, but like you pointed out, he looks like a defensive liability so does Duquette think he can jump to the majors and DH? 

Honestly I'd rather them go after one of those raw high 90s relievers that were available then these kinds of guys. People can say it's only 200K, but maybe some of that money could be put into the minor leagues for better video and pitching machine equipment? Of maybe give some of your longtime minor league managers/coaches or scouts a bonus? Just seems like he threw 200K away and some PAs to guys that probbaly should have no reason helping a team that consider's itself a contender.

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1 minute ago, Rene88 said:

I think because we do little else in the offseason up to this point, this is magnified. I don't think he is on a cliff.

LOL.  Crash and burn massively?  Sorry, we obviously have different ideas of what that means.  To me, a rule 5 pick is simply taking a shot at very little cost and risk.  If it doesn't work out, oh well.

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I wonder if we are going to get some bad news on Rickard needing surgery. It is also possible that he could start in AAA now that he is no longer Rule 5. See what one of these guys has as Plan A, send him back with no harm done if it doesn't work out. They can't be worse than Reimold.

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5 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Sounds like Santander might not be 100% healthy OR they are setting him up for a DL stint right out of the gate:)

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/12/orioles-make-two-picks-in-major-league-phase-of-rule-5-draft.html

Hmm, interesting. It makes a little more sense if Duquette feels he's going to need to be DLed most of the season and then he can rehab him in the minors. If he basically "stole" a potential prospect and that's his reasoning then it makes a lot more sense. If the guy is ready to go by spring I'll be perplexed.

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I just don't understand why we aren't taking a flyer on pitchers that throw in the upper 90's (like Garcia) and hope you win the lotto with our new pitching coach. These picks seem silly. Plus pitchers are much easier to hide on the Dl with "arm soreness" and "fatigue" and the like.

But whatever...DD never has valued pitching all that much, we know that much.

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1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

From MLB about Santander:

 

Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 45 | Arm: 55 | Defense: 45 | Overall: 45

Signed for $385,000 out of Venezuela in 2011, Santander was holding his own at age 18 in the Class A Midwest League in '13 before a right elbow injury derailed his season and cost him part of the subsequent year. Fully healthy in 2016, Santander emerged was one of the more improved players in the Indians' system behind a breakout performance in the Class A Advanced Carolina League, where he finished first in the circuit in doubles (42), second in runs scored (90), third in hits (145), home runs (20) and RBIs (95) and fourth in OPS (.862).

Santander didn't begin switch hitting until 2010, but he took to it quickly and has made steady progress as he's moved up the ladder. A consistent hitter from the left side of the plate who possesses above-average raw power and makes hard contact to all fields, Santander is more pull-oriented and exhibits greater swing-and-miss tendencies as a right-handed hitter, although he does draw his share of walks from both sides.

Defensively, Santander has spent much of his time in left field, where his athleticism, speed and arm are all strengths. He's also proved to be a capable first baseman and receives high marks for his picking skills despite relatively limited experience at the position.

 

Sounds interesting.    The one red flag is that with all this, he's still only rated their 30th best prospect.

If the arm is pretty good than I'd expect the Orioles to move him to right field once he's healthy. Like I said originally, this is a guy i'd like to have in our system, but he has no place on a MLB roster of a contending team. Hopefully the orioles will find a way to stash on on the DL most of the season then rehab him until September when they can just add him to the expanded roster.

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1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:

If the arm is pretty good than I'd expect the Orioles to move him to right field once he's healthy. Like I said originally, this is a guy i'd like to have in our system, but he has no place on a MLB roster of a contending team. Hopefully the orioles will find a way to stash on on the DL most of the season then rehab him until September when they can just add him to the expanded roster.

You are right.  It would have made more sense to select him in the AAA phase.

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4 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

If the arm is pretty good than I'd expect the Orioles to move him to right field once he's healthy. Like I said originally, this is a guy i'd like to have in our system, but he has no place on a MLB roster of a contending team. Hopefully the orioles will find a way to stash on on the DL most of the season then rehab him until September when they can just add him to the expanded roster.

That would just be kicking the can down the road another year. He has to be on the active roster for at least 90 days or he doesn't fulfill the Rule 5 requirements and they'd have to carry him for the entire 2018 season as well.

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