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Sure, I don't mind taking a reach here on a guy with a high ceiling, I just don't know if that hit tool will carry. I mean, is there a guy in the major leagues who hit .239 or less during the year he was drafted who is a regular? We'll see.

True, but i think Servideo was to save some money for Mayo and Baumler and it was a COVID draft so they took a gamble is sudden success was a breakout. It doesn't not appear so but he's been hurt a lot.

Holliday will always be compared to the other high school selections in this draft and it will be interesting to follow their progress together. Perfect game has Kmotion scores that measure the hitters Signature Sequence. While I'm still trying to learn what all of this means, but apparently the most "efficient swing' is one that goes Pelvis, Torso, Arm and then Hand. The high speed are considered better. So let's compare those four: (Pelvis=1,Torso=2,Arm=3,hand=4) Player Sequence Pelvis Torso Arm Hand (Speeds) 1-2 2-3 3-4 (Speed gains) Holliday 1-2-3-4 690.0 985.5 1469.5 1870.5 295.5 484.0 401.0 Jones 1-2-3-4 593.0 876.0 1228.0 1719.0 283.0 352.0 491.0 Johnson 1-2-3-4 599.0 915.0 1224.0 2799.0 316.0 309.0 1575.0 Green 1-2-3-4 611.0 1046.0 1298.0 2152.0 435.0 252.0 854.0 Holliday has the quickest pelvis or "hips" and his torso is second only to Green. He also has the best arm speed but 3rd fastest hands. Termarr Johnson has off the chart hand speed which is why everyone loves his bat. It will be interesting to see if these numbers mean much as they progress.

I understand that BA is not the be all end all, but having a low BA against low level pitching is not a good thing. It's pretty clear Sid's analytics no longer cares too much about BA as long as there are walks and power to carry. Me personally, I know the game is changing, but that's a LOW average and the .199 against confernce pitching is a red flag for me. Saying that, I didn't scout him so I'll be pulling for him to do well. I personally would have gone with a pitcher with this selection, but hey, what do I know?

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I agree. I think we're going to see some sparkling outings and some where it's going to go bad all of a sudden, but it's time for him to figure it out at the major league level.

There's not a lot of good arguments to not brining him up in the second half now. He now needs to learn how to get the best hitters in the world out.

He does it most games. He's very fidgety on the mound who frequently runs dirt on his hands or kicks his spikes or moves the mound dirt around. Once he's on the bump though he's a quick worker. It's just who he is right now, but I can see how things could snowball on him a bit.

That is Elias' MO. We'll see how this all works out but I'm starting to think he thinks he can take the Spencer Watkins of the world and make them decent starters so why waste picks on high injury risk young pitchers? We'll see if that's right long term. I'd really like some good arms to dream upon in the system that he drafted or signed.

Well he's supposedly a better defender than Gallo, so he has that going for him.

That would be a great outcome, but I think there's about a 10% chance of him becoming that player. We'll see. there is talent here but the very low average, particularly the less than .200 average in conference concerns me.

I think we all hope it's Porter, but I would be surprised if it is him at this point. First, I'm betting his number scared off teams and he may be thought of as a hard sign. Second, we know the Orioles have an absolute aversion to drafting pitching, particularly high school pitching where they've drafted only Baumler who has spent most of his professional career in the training room. The easy answer is another college bat but left-handed hitting catcher Malcolm Moore could be a guy who intrigues them if they think he can hit enough to be first base eventually.

I don't think those are positive comps. While Deer did have a decent career, and some of these kids would be happy to have his career, Deer is usually thrown out there for low average, high strikeout players.

So against decent college pitching he was Rob Deer. Yikes.

Unless he's Kevin Kiermaier, defense is not a carrying tool to anything but maybe a 4th/5th outfielder in today's game.

The fact that they did not take one pitcher in these first four picks is disturbing. Two of the college hitters they took are right-handed power guys when they have a cavernous left field in Camden Yards. I'm sure they know more than me, but not impressed with this draft in the least bit so far.

Not going to lie. I usually don't get too upset with these picks since I know I don't have all the info they have, but it's getting to be a joke how many college outfielders Elias takes. Not a fan of the Fabian pick at all. I don't are about the tools, if you can only hit .239 against college pitching you are going to struggle in the pros. No pitchers is pretty damn disappointing.

Yeah, there are some comps there. Low batting average guy who walks, strikeouts and hits some homers. Supposedly a good defensive outfielder. Eh.. I'm not sure there are ton of major league outfielders who hit .239 and struck out over 25% of his PAs in the major leagues. This guy reminds me of Zach Watson a bit.

2022 2nd Round Pick Comp B (#67): Jud Fabian - OF - (Jr) Florida University https://www.mlb.com/video/2022-draft-jud-fabian?t=mlb-draft Stats Initial Take: When Elias likes a guy, he likes a guy. After the Red sox beat him to the punch last year, but failed to signed him, the Orioles got their guy in the Compensation portion after the 2nd round. Known as an elite defender in center field with some pop, Fabian is a scouts favorite despite his less then intriguing college stats. Fabian slashed .239/.414/.598/1.013 with 24 bombs, 62 BBs and 69 Ks in 310 PAs. He either homered, walked or struck out in 50% of his PAs. The low batting average obviously did not scare off the Orioles even though he hits .199 in conference as well. With several pitchers still on the board, Fabian seems like a strange pick for most organization, but not Elias and the Orioles who've neve seen a college outfielder they didn't like.

Well the Rays got him before Elias could.

You would hope, but Brock Jones is still on the board. Hard for Elias to pass a left-handed hitting outfielder with power.

Remember this 67th pick was acquired for trading Tanner Scott and Cole Sulser to the Marlins (who were replaced by Perez and Krehbiel). So basically the Orioles saved money this year and picked up a free pick.

Updated as of 7/17. Remember, new draftees are not eligible on the power rankings until they make their professional debut.

Brock Porter must be considered unsignable.

Good point. The only thing is Haskin couldn't get to his game power very often, but at least Beavers did last year.