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Worse start of career after walking six in his last start. Maybe it's just a bit of a tired arm, but eight walks in his last 5.1 IP is pretty strange for a guy who walked just nine in eight starts across May and June.

I'm not convinced that small sample size suggests he can hit lefties. While something has changed dramatically from last year, he still doesn't look comfortable against major league lefties.

Sorry Frobby, but you are well off base here. I talked about the jump of the runner in both steals and I also spoke to the rankings of where Sisco stands in MLB. I never once said all of the steals was always Sisco's fault, but he clearly is well below average in this regard and has always been regarded this way by stats and scouting reports. I'm not defensive at all. What I find ridiculous is when people want to point out things they saw live and want to discount video work and actual timing. People can have any opinion they want, but when you start discounting what I clearly proved with actual video analysis I'm going to call you on it. Murpdog always looks for some reason to go against the grain with me and all you did is make him feel good by backing his personal observations that were based on a one time viewing live. You are better than that.

I don't think Sisco is going to get any better at throwing out runners because his velocities on his throws are pretty low overall so it's not all footwork and release like we thought. I prefer Severino overall and think he's got a nice chance to have a nice long career behind the plate, even if it will mostly be in a backup or platoon role. Sisco's bat has improved enough that I'd like to see if he's able to add to his versatility so they can find a way to get him in the lineup. I could be wrong, but I don't think Sisco will be a longterm major league catcher unless a team is willing to overlook the flaws in his defensive game. Good, contending teams tend to want good defensive catchers.

I'm glad you have the ability to watch the pitcher's delivery and the jump of the runner live during a game and make that assessment. All I did was go back and watch actual video of the two steals, watching while timing the pitcher's delivery and pop times and then another take to watch the jumps, but hey, you do you. You aren't the fist person or last person who thinks they are right, proven wrong with facts and details, and then still wants to stick to your live in game view. OldFan#5 would be proud. At least Chance Sisco sounds like a baseball name so you got that going for you.

The numbers suggest Severino is not very good at framing, but is an average to above average thrower. His game calling is fine and I like how he commands the pitcher on the mounds with positive feedback and visits when needed. Sisco has improved in several areas like game calling (though I don't like the fact he goes low and away with fastballs with two strikes much too often where the batter has a chance to defend better because of the little bit of extra reaction time. For me, all Sisco needs to do is control the running game. We can't have teams running wild on him or putting added pressure on the pitcher to be faster because he's trying to make up for Sisco's weakness.

It's a different throwing motion completely. different footwork, different timing, different everything really.

By the way, on the first stolen base Brooks was 1.28 to home plate (1.3 is considered average) and Sisco's pop time was actually right on his average 2.10 which is amongst the lowest in baseball. That one is more on Sisco. The second steal was definitely on Brooks. He was slow to the plate 1.5 and both runners never stopped moving. He clearly did not think they would try a double steal. Sisco actually had a 2.0 pop time on the second throw but it wasn't close because of bad a job Brooks did.

The post above that you quoted was responding to a post that was talking about the comparison. You went off subject by quoting my evaluation of Sisco and bringing up Severino which is not what I was discussing. Had I mentioned Severino or made any mention of Sisco being the worse defensive catcher than that comment would have been appropriate. I realize that nuance is not easy for everyone.

You obviously devalue the defensive worth of a catcher. I'm a big proponent of good defensive catching and unfortunately, I don't see enough things from Sisco that would make me want him behind the plate in big games against a good team. Also, with Rutchsman coming, I'd like to see him tried at other positions, particularly 3B since there is a need in the system there. I do feel better about his bat after this season, but I'm still perplexed by how bad he was in just about every aspect last year with regard to stats and analytics. He definitely is a lot stronger so there's that.

Looks up at title of thread.... Oh yeah, this is a Sisco thread. Decides not to ask the point of bringing up Severino in a Sisco thread that is discussing Sisco.

He also doesn't frame balls well. At the end of the day he's a well below average catcher that you would not want behind the plate on a competitive team. I'd like to see them try him at 3B next spring.

Nats running wild on Sisco. Sisco has now thrown out just 3 of 20 base stealers this year. Sisco's 2.10 pop time coming into tonight is 58th out of 63 major league catchers with 5 steal attempts.

I'm judging by what I've seen from him, not his numbers. His fastball is not generating the swings and misses that made me like him more than others. Now a see a guy with a 91-92 MPH fastball, a good curve, and a well below average change. The curve is a plus pitch, but I've seen him get barreled a lot more this year than I saw last year, especially the fastball. Maybe I just saw him really good last year, but I've been disappointed this year and I was higher on him than anyone else.

He's ahead of both of them for me at this point. Kremer has disappointed me this year and Akin is looking more like a reliever. Baumann doesn't have much of change and will need more than just a slider to stick as a starter longterm, but he has a back end of bullpen reliever floor for me.

Watching Baumann throw a no-hitter while throwing 97-98 MPH, with 10Ks and under 100 pitches has been the highlight of the Orioles season for me. One of the most dominating pitching performances I've ever witnessed. The velocity bump and slider improvements have bumped his stock.

Mike Baumann is thru 8 IP with his no-hitter. He hit 97 MPH in the 8th inning and using a 90-91 slider to dominate. He has 8 Ks thru 8 IP. This is a breakout type of performance.

Akin

There is no need to rush Wells to the majors. Unlike Duquette, Elias has also shown no interest at all of players jumping AAA so far and has really slowed promoted guys overall. I'm fine with him getting a full year at AA and then starting next year in Norfolk but if Elias wanted him to get some AAA starts under his belt before the year is out it's fine as well.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Now who will Hunter talk about as a great prospect due to his 5-0 record at Bowie the year before?

I haven't done a full evaluation, but if I had a gun to my head right now, I'd go Lowther, Wells, Akin, Zimmerman.

Stuff wise, I've liked more of what I've seen from Wells than Lowther this year. Wells seems to be able to defend himself better when his stuff is not there while Lowther tends to walk more. Saying that, I'm liking them both more now that they are having the success they are having at AA. Wells' stuff looks particularly better than last year.

Hi Chuck, do you Redeemer the e-mail you used? Pm me you name and e-mail and I'll look you up.

Although it's a tough angle to see movement, Stauffer gets a ton of swings and misses on his fastball and changeup. He tends to miss armside when he doesn't finish, but he showed decent control of his fastball and changeup. Worth keeping an eye on.