DrungoHazewood

Probably some similarities to baseball. Older audience, difficult to attract younger people especially with fracturing of the media environment. I'm guessing a lot of people think it's great baseball and the symphony exist, but wouldn't actually go and spend money unless there was a really good reason.

I think if you look at his overall minor/MLB record he looks like he has a fairly typical platoon split, but a lot of variability due to small number of ABs against lefties in a lot of years. My guess is that they usually rested him against his weaker side.

It seems unlikely that someone who's about to turn 26 and has a career minor league OPS of .642 is developing into a solid major league hitter.

Gamboa is still throwing knucklers, right? I'd missed that he was briefly back in the O's org last year. He's only 33. He could pitch more 15 years and become another Willis Otanez. I'll need to remember to check in on him from time to time.

All the other teams know more about Means than we do. The Orioles aren't fooling anyone about his value. You always listen to offers, but I don't see how Means (at least by himself) is going to bring back more value than five years of an average, decently established #3-5 starter.

You can be a successful MLB pitcher with an 89 mph fastball. Just like you can drive 75 mph on the interstate with a 64 ounce Big Gulp between your legs and a double Whopper in your left hand.

Orioles-Wahoos: Doug "Arrested for Weed " Johns, Branden "5.17 ERA" Kline, Tyler "5.02 ERA" Wilson, and legally blind strikeout king Mark Reynolds Orioles-Hokies: Playoff hero Joe Saunders, all-time good guy Johnny Oates, and Leo ".917 OPS as an Oriole" Burke. Win for the Hokies.

It's not like the Orioles attendance fell from 2.7 to 1.7M over the period where they filled the roster with Jeff Conine, Kevin Millar, Jay Payton, Jamie Walker, Danys Baez, Steve Kline, Cesar Izturis, Ty Wigginton, Corey Patterson, Garrett Atkins... Wait, what? Oh, maybe it did.

Actually, the goal is to build a quality, self-sustaining organization that can compete regularly given Baltimore's resources. Individual year win totals are largely irrelevant for several years.

Here. And here. And here. Here. That's just a two minute search, I'm sure there were others. The Cubs had a larger revenue and talent base than the Orioles are starting with. It's far easier to do a rebuild with large-market resources.

Once again you've taken your opinion and attempted to give it legitimacy by attributing it to "Everyone on here". Not true. Epstein had left the Sox and gone to the Cubs by 2012. That was the year he guided them to a 100-loss season as part of the rebuild. You know, prior to their World Championship. Just like the Astros.

Did you hate Theo Epstein in 2012? What about the Astros management in that timeframe? Life isn't always about immediate gratification.

There are 38 players who've played at least 25 games at 1B or DH this season. The median OPS+ among them is 116. Mancini's career OPS+ is 117, and this season it's been 135 so far. He's an average to average-plus 1B/DH, who has demonstrated a willingness to play a corner OF spot in a pinch. He's under team control at a reasonable salary for three more years. By any reasonble argument he's an average to a little better than average MLB player at reduced rates; acquiring a equivalent in free agency would mean spending $12-15M a year. He's not someone you want to rely on to be an impact player, or to be productive into his 30s. But he has value.

Jumbling together subjective observations, cherry-picked SSS data, and a palpable dislike of both Orioles managment and the Hangout's consensus isn't logical. It's contrarian.

This must be the dumbest place in the world, since you think that the vast majority of people here are always wrong and since you hold the opposite opinion you must be right. I think the more likely case is that you get an unusual level of joy out of being the king of the contrarians. Whatever the topic is, you get immense pleasure out of telling the those who hold the consensus opinion that they're stupider than a bag of hammers.

Is it even possible for you to be objective? Every single post is pure spin.

Wouldn't the appropriate response to possibly not getting a lot of talent in last year's selloff be to hope the new people in charge do better in trades in the future? Rather than assuming the results from a few trades from 2018 means that trades don't work? Shouldn't the Orioles be evaluating the potential returns for Mancini, and whether or not to trade him, based on actual offers for Manicni rather than generalities and broad-brush conclusions based on how many teams are uncompetitive?

Did you know that the Marlins are something like 43rd in world baseball per game attendance? It's hard to find up-to-the-minute attendance data on all the foreign leagues, but looking at what I can find the Marlins are behind all 12 teams in the NPB (Japan), Monterrey and Tijuana in the Mexican League, and probably 3-4 Korean teams. They're out-drawing all the affiliated US minors I looked at, but Vegas, Charlotte, and Round Rock are creeping pretty close.

If they'd put Davis back in the stands giving the out of town scores while stealing people's food, I'd tune in to watch a 40-win team.

Mancini's surplus value is something like a free agent you'd sign to a 3/40 deal. He's basically a 2-win first baseman with the ability to stand around the OF if you really get in a bind. The package I'd expect would be a single 50-100ish prospect and a one or two other lower-rated guys.

I said the same thing about Adam Jones and CF, but go D'backs.

I knew he'd had some success in Japan, but wow. 2017 he had 54 saves in a 140-game schedule, 66 innings, 34 hits, 10 walks, 102 Ks, and a 1.09 ERA. You can't be much better. In '09 for the O's he walked more batters than that in 23 innings. From 2013-2017 his highest ERA was 1.88. This article says he's rehabbing from hip surgery which cost him most of last year. He was the '17 Pacific League MVP.

I'd almost forgotten about him. Looked him up, and he had a pretty good four years in Japan, was Hiroshima's closer for three years. He pitched 12 years in pro ball and never threw 60 innings in a season. 555 career innings, or 64 innings less than Tim Keefe threw in 1883.

You could have said "you know, if they sign one or two of the top 50 guys that would be a pretty nice get, it'll show some tangible progress." Well, not you. But someone could have said that.

You are physically incapable of having a positive outlook.