PaulFolk

Partly because he played five more games than anybody else. But yeah, he hit pretty well, but it was mostly singles.

Only heard Brown once, but I was impressed. Good voice, knows his stuff, and showed more personality as the game went on. At one point he said, "Bundy threw 69 pitches today, so a nice outing for him."

I'm ready to part ways with Davis as much as anybody, but I hate hearing things like "he doesn't have honor" or "he's evil" because he doesn't want to just retire and give back a hundred million dollars. Davis and the Orioles agreed to a contract. It's not Davis's responsibility to just walk away from it because it has worked out horribly for the Orioles. Why would you expect anyone to leave that kind of money on the table? The O's made a colossal mistake and now they have to deal with it.

But you're the one who brought up how expensive your tickets are. What Frobby's saying is that there are more cost-effective ones available in most parks (though I'm not familiar with the Astros specifically). The point is that, in general, baseball doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg.

I don't think his defense is solid anymore. Davis had -4 Defensive Runs Saved in 2018 and -5 the year before. And that backs up what I've seen with the eye test, where he's looked noticeably worse with the glove than he used to. He botched a fairly easy play in the ninth inning on Opening Day last year that led to a blown O's lead. As for his offense, yes, his spring training is a small sample size. But the 2018 season wasn't, and he looks exactly the same this spring as he did last year. As Jim Palmer said on the broadcast, if Davis has made any adjustments, it's hard to see what they are. I don't think Davis will be cut at the end of spring training (especially if Trumbo starts the season on the DL, opening up the DH spot for Mancini). But I also don't think he'll be here for 1-2 more seasons if he continues to look like this.

Not if Harper's "bad years" are better than Davis's bad years, which I think they will be. I don't think Harper -- or anyone, really -- will ever put up a season as bad as Davis' 2018.

Not really relevant to the thread, but this isn't correct. The Orioles will need a fifth starter for the 6th game of the season at the latest (April 2). That's part of a stretch in which they have six games in six days.

This blurb is wrong, I think. Corban Joseph did re-sign with the Orioles after being released, but the A's then selected him in the minor league Rule 5 draft.

It's $4 million for this season, and then either a $6 million team option or a $2 million buyout for next year. So Nick is essentially guaranteed $6 million.

As Frobby said, the Orioles didn't give Britton away by any stretch of the imagination. Also his value wasn't as high as you seem to think it was. He was in the middle of his second straight injury-shortened, good-but-not-dominant season, and was eligible for FA at the end of the year. The O's were never going to get a Chapman-like haul for him. I'd argue that Schoop had more value than Britton at the time they were traded. Schoop had had a breakout season more recently (2017 as opposed to 2016 for Britton), was four years younger, and had an extra year of team control.

That is absolute insanity, and a perfect example of why your argument is so flawed. If you think anybody who knows baseball would make the same choice, you don't know baseball.

What does the bolded sentence mean? I think Jones will get a better contract because he's two years younger, but I don't expect either one to draw huge interest.

It's easy to do worse when you remove your best player. The Orioles almost certainly would've lost more games if they didn't have Manny at all this year. Not a lot more, but more.

He probably wouldn't have been in the lineup if not for Trumbo's injured knee. But without Trumbo, the only options besides Davis were the backup catcher (Caleb) and Jace Peterson, who's also a lefty.

In the last 40 years?

It could happen. I hear Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball.

Not crazy, but against the rules.

I was literally asking a question. Why would they put him on the DL? There's no report whatsoever of him being hurt.

DL'ed him with what injury?

An early check on last year's Orioles who are now playing elsewhere (Flaherty included): http://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2018/04/18/ex-os-report-looking-2017-orioles-elsewhere-nowhere-season/

According to BR's Play Index, it's a tie between Rob Deer (1991) and Dan Uggla (2013). They each hit .179 in 500+ plate appearances.

The minors, no question. Get him some experience above Low-A. Let him get back in form after his injuries. What's the rush to bring Harvey to the majors right now? Sheer desperation? That's not a good philosophy. Not to mention you'd be starting his major league service clock early for no real reason.

What precedent has been set for a pitcher with zero experience beyond Low-A ball jumping immediately to the major league team? When has that ever happened in recent memory? Schoop had made his way through every level of the system before he came to the majors, including 70 games at Triple-A. Machado had 109 games at Double-A before he was called up. Gausman spent two months at Double-A before he came up (and continued to be shuttled between the majors and minors for a while after that). Even Bundy had 11 games of experience at Double-A before he stuck in the majors for good, and he almost certainly would've started in the minors for more seasoning in 2016 if he hadn't been out of options. Again, Hunter Harvey has never played above Low-A. Not Norfolk. Not Bowie. Not even Frederick. And he's pitched in a grand total of 13 games in the last three seasons because of injuries. To suggest he's somehow ready to crack the Orioles' Opening Day roster, and contribute in the majors from day one this season, is crazy talk.

Wait, his initials are ABC? Not gonna lie, that's kind of awesome.