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Fine I'll check . He had to be talking about at the Trop. Because they're 4-2 there this season and were a combined 3-16 the previous two seasons.

The results of this poll really kind of surprise me. I would expect maybe 90/10 yes/no because there's always people who like to be contrarian. But this...It's kind of like some of us had different experiences as an Orioles fan.

For PBP guys, I don't really need that much from them as far as calling the action. I can see what's going on. I just want to find them entertaining and Kevin and Ben (and Jim when he's there) are highly entertaining. Kevin cracks me up. I get it that not everyone wants that sort of thing but it works for me.

I'm guessing (if the rumor is true, I don't really believe it) that he was referring to wins at Tropicana Field. But even that I'm not sure is accurate as I don't feel like looking it up.

For the people that say NO: Does JJ belong in the Orioles HOF? His and Buck's resumes are basically the same. They were apart of bringing winning and the playoffs back to the city of Baltimore.

I'll bottomline it. We suffered through 14 straight abysmal losing seasons until Buck came along and helped the Orioles first get a WC in 2012 and then win the AL East after 17 years in 2014. I was a grown adult man, who openly wept when we clinched a playoff berth. I don't care about anything else. He's a Baltimore Orioles legend and definitely an Orioles HOFer.

If they want to hold a kangaroo court more power to them. But I’m not going to get upset because a guy didn’t get an inside the park homerun.

You kind of did. " In higher leverage situations they stay cool but the pitcher doesn’t."

Huh? So hitters have the "clutch switch" but pitchers don't?

Why don’t they do this in all situations?

Didn't realize I should do that... Can one only flip on the "clutch switch" with runners on or in scoring postion?

No, my reasoning is that hitters hit however they hit (good or bad) more or less the same way, no matter the situation. Look at Eddie's numbers: Career: 287 BA 359 OBP 476 SLG 836 OPS RISP: 292 BA 391 OBP 497 SLG 888 OPS On 3rd, 2 Out: 293 BA 422 OBP 513 SLG 935 OPS 2 outs, RISP: 262 BA 391 OBP 464 SLG 855 OPS Late/Close: 282 BA 371 OBP 494 SLG 865 OPS Tie Game: 290 BA 369 OBP 500 SLG 869 OPS Aside from runner on 3rd with 2 outs, none of those numbers are demonstrably different from his career numbers.

Agreed and what really sucks is he was so good to begin the season.

I read that quote as him saying that they were attempting to get the "bigger" names on the market but the asking price was a non starter.

My point is that, while there are clutch situations, there is no such thing as a clutch hitter. Good hitters are going to be typically good hitters in any situation, just as bad hitters are going to be bad hitters in any situation. If people really had the ability to be clutch (hit better in certain high leverage situations), then why wouldn't they just hit that way all the time?

I bet this writer would consider Ohtani, McClanahan, or Gallen an Ace and yet their only worth between 0.1 and 0.3 WAR more than Bradish.

Also, you have to love how Fangraphs routinely craps on the Orioles and predicted them to be bad this year, but now all of a sudden the Orioles are losers for not trading a bunch of prospects for a few middling rentals to possibly increase the small odds of going all the way this year. Even now, they only predict the Orioles to go a game over 500 the rest of the season.

Exactly. I would rather see them package a surplus of prospects for a pitcher/s with more service time during the offseason, rather than giving up too much for 2 months of someone that isn't much better than what's in house.

So they should have traded better prospects for someone that's only been a half a win better than the guy they got?

I'm sure they said it, but I find it funny, since Baseball Tonight was praising the trade yesterday on the deadline show.

Or it could be that he's hitting better in clutch situations this year but that being clutch isn't actually a real thing.

Perhaps not but I don't think any of the players traded really did that. Maybe Giolito or Sewald but we don't know that Elias wasn't in on those pieces. Maybe they were and he felt they were asking for too much.

I don't get this argument. Just because they have a surplus of prospects doesn't mean you trade them for anything, just to trade them.

"This deadline had a ton of impact rental arms" Did it really though? I wouldn't have been upset if the Orioles had traded for some of the other names out there. But let's not act like there was a Randy Johnson or CC Sabathia to be had.

Not to mention he had already grounded into two double plays on the night. Over managing at its finest.