Moose Milligan

Not really. First, he started his VC fund with a group of people, it wasn't just him. Their backgrounds were in finance and government and it started with a fairly modest sum of money, like 5-10 million. They acquired a lot of companies based in defense and there's a lot of money in that. You make it seem like he did it overnight, the Carlyle Group started in the mid to late 80s, this just didn't happen all of a sudden.

None of that also has to do with your initial panic that this guy might not live another 10 years and the fear that we'd have to go through the rigors of another sale of the team, but here we are. I also never said that I delve into debates on semantics, that's just you putting words in my mouth which is another wheelhouse of yours.

Their parents cut their corners for them.

This guy went to Duke. I'm sure he and @Frobbycan swap legal stories while also reminiscing about Coach K or something.

Sorta feels like November 2022 when it was announced that Snyder was exploring selling the team. Kinda came outta nowhere, no one was expecting it but it was the cause for a lot of positivity.

Oh, I've got plenty of evidence as to what kind of guy you are. If judging by your posting style, I'm fairly confident you like to pick nits whenever at all possible and delve into debates on semantics with a disagreeable streak an inch deep and a mile long. You can say that Angelos ran his team like a trial lawyer, you might not be wrong in that regard but I think the overriding perceptions of him came down to him being a cheapskate (you call it haggling) and being thin skinned (Jon Miller). As for "gross corruption" I don't care. I really don't. Just win and spend a little money on the emerging core. Keep Elias here. That's really it.

You might, but suing MLB doesn't really have anything to do with day to day operations of running a team. I mean, Al Davis was suing the NFL and was also winning a Super Bowl at the same time. Seemed to work well for him.

You strike me as the type of guy that doesn't like people that are obscenely wealthy no matter how they made their money. If you're here to gripe about billonaires in general, well, I guess you're a hammer and everything is a nail. Angelos, by and large, was a credit to the community outside of what he did to the Orioles. You can say what you want about him but he's been a charitable guy...IIRC there was one year where he donated a few hundred thousand to keep Baltimore city pools open and he did it anonymously. That said, I am not sure how someone runs a baseball team like a trial lawyer. I'm not sure how Bisciotti made his money in personnel (staffing and recruiting) and then ran his football team as such and that made him successful in running said team. Like, personnel and recruiting is important in any arena. I don't care that Rubenstein is a lawyer and into VC. I don't care how he made his money and I'm not sure why anyone really would, as long as it's legal. Lots of people make money leveraging relationships, this isn't a bad thing.

It'd be the best if they somehow got Dan Connolly in there.

Looks that way. IIRC, the credentials the guy had were pretty legit though, I think someone said he'd known about the Cohen purchase.

Maybe this guy has some money to throw around, will keep Elias and his crew in the fold for a long time and really actually get out of the way. Jeez, Pickles. Try some positivity for once.

@Sports Guywill be here shortly to tell you that you're wrong and that he hasn't gotten out of the way. Sure, it's possible to get a worse owner, but I think it would be really hard to do so.

No, I just think it's weird that, after 30 years of mostly terrible ownership, the Angelos family could be looking to sell and your first thought is "Jeez, that guy is old, it would suck to have to go through this again in 10 years." I mean, if that's your reality, that's cool. I think most of us would just be thrilled to get Angelos gone.

FFS.

Improving the pitching.

I then thought of the other next logical option a few minutes later. I’m sure you’ll get it, too.

It would be fun if they were, though. So far, there haven't been a lot of reports about teams coming to the Orioles with trade proposals for Norby, Stowers, Ortiz, etc.

I know, it's great. I'm sure Soto will continue to be a great hitter and put up elite OBP stats. That's fine. But like I said earlier, he's getting fat, his defense is already bad and he's slow. He's going to be a DH by the time he's 30, probably sooner. And if the Yankees want to pay out the ass for that, that's fine.

Sure seems like it's an exaggeration. If it doesn't happen, we'll have the "Boras is teh debil and ruining baseball!" dead horse to beat in tandem with the "Angelos is a skinflint!" bloody pulp of a stallion.

I don't think Elias or anyone from the Orioles is reaching out once or twice a day. That sounds completely obnoxious and I'd prefer to think that Elias has a bit more tact when it comes to dealing with agents.

I thought this was interesting.

@SteveAI think this might be one where you can get all Orioles. Or come really close to it....after filling it out this morning and getting the score on my laptop, I opened it up on my phone to try to see if I could do your challenge. Here's a hint, Fred Lynn surprisingly never won a Silver Slugger. Not in Boston, not anywhere. So that took me out of the running.

9/9 54

Back the truck up for Elias and Sig.