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You gotta do what you gotta do when you select an A+ guy. I don’t think anybody expected him to stick.

I just want to say I’m really impressed that Hyde is batting an incredibly slow yet incredible (right now) OBP guy first.

Fine he has a 664 OPS in AAA, age 22 plus. People don’t often do better in the majors than they do in the minors. Ignoring minor league stats isn’t the best practice IMO. And weren’t you using college stats to complain about our draft picks, and how BA in college couldn’t translate to the pros and whatnot?

That’s fair and likely so. We can also infer that the O’s, whether it’s Elias or ownership, are conservative re: service time issues.

There’s not really anything extra to know, the only service time thing at issue right now is super 2 status, and that depends on where you rank on the service time list years in the future. It’s pretty hard to predict in the present, other than know where you are historically. We are right around the normal historical cut off, but this year (and maybe next year) will likely be weird and cause things to differ from the historical norms. Not to mention we don’t know if the new CBA will even include this.

Agreed. Presumably he could walk away today with a large percentage (maybe 80%) of his pay, have more money than anybody would ever need, and just not have to deal with it anymore. It has to be a mental struggle failing so much in something where you were once one of the best in the world, being asked about it all the time by reporters, etc. This is why I was never really in favor of outright cutting him since it always seemed reasonable that eventually he'd accept some sort of buyout and the roster spot didn't seem that critical the past few years. It would have helped IMO if we'd simply benched him for the most part like his performance dictated. But the closer we get to the end of the contract the less likely that gets, and the better the O's prospects get the more important the roster spot... At the same time he's a Boras guy, which seems to say IMO that money matters a lot to him. And on the other hand, he's a pretty charitable guy it seems, and he might feel it's worthwhile to be able to send all those dollars where he wants, rather than where the Angelos family wants. So there are many things possibly at play. But yeah, it would be totally reasonable for him to leave tonight with an agreement to blow off like 8-20M of what he's owed, it wouldn't surprise me at all even if it's not that likely. But as you said later we don't even know if ownership would be on board with that...

You never know exactly when the super 2 cutoff will be. You have to go into June to be absolutely safe.

If only we had an OF prospect who was (apparently) doing great at Bowie and was ready for the majors.

Matt Wieters had his best season at 25 and second best at 26. Shrug, that was just an easy one, I'm not looking for anybody else.

Yeah, it’s fine if he’s great vs LH and ok vs RH. It’s just harder to use a guy now if he’s great vs LH and awful vs RH.

That’s a good policy in general. Especially if you’re going to carry around 19 pitchers on the roster.

That’s fair. I‘m hoping deception/spin make up for some velocity. I had higher hopes than I was reading I this thread, basically a lefty Hess, and it seemed like some too quick decision making. I’d certainly like to see him get plenty of innings the rest of the year to see more of what we’ve got.

I'm not really an optimist usually, but it's weird to me that for some of you it only took 3 innings to peg this guy as basically one of the last guys in the bullpen on a 2nd division team. I'm glad I didn't get to watch last night!

Something that surely hasn't happened in forever--Strasburg will have two starts today. And hopefully two Ls.

O’Day was a waiver claim. McLouth was signed after being released. Hardy was traded for Carlos Gomez then a year later we got him for Jim Hoey and Brett Jacobson. Davis was 25 when traded and probably where Stewart is now, on the verge of being a failed prospect. Tommy Hunter was nobody. Miguel Gonzalez came out of the Mexican league. Machado was a highly rated rookie who couldn’t even dominate AA. Jim Johnson was Mychal Givens without the strikeouts. Buck didn’t trust Tillman for the playoffs. I’ll grant you Jones, Markakis, and Wieters are more established than anything this year outside Iglesias, but these weren’t exactly the ‘27 Yankees.

I almost added something about that. Does the catcher get credit when the ump just decides to start calling strikes 6 inches off? And blame when a ball is called middle of the zone?

FWIW Sisco has been decent at framing this year per baseballsavant, 23rd of 56 qualifiers. Severino is near the bottom. I have no idea if there is a better source for framing, nor do I know how long it takes for framing to stabilize. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/catcher_framing?year=2020&team=&min=q&sort=4,1

How many dogs has Alex Cobb saved at this point anyway???

How many people is a pattern? One? Like Moose said, I thought Arrieta was pretty much established to be a Rick Adair problem, and trying to force him to do things that weren't his strength/comfort zone. I don't think the current org has anything to do with those kind of problems. Matusz seemed to develop just fine in the minors, then he just hit a wall in the majors for whatever reason. Whether that was Adair or TTTP or hubris or he just wasn't good enough, well a lot of people just aren't good enough. Bundy, who knows, he's had a good few starts. Maybe he'll keep it up. Or maybe he'll be like Gausman, who had 6 good starts after he was traded, and has been pretty much the Gausman we know after that. Yeah, we haven't developed much. But from 2010-17, here are the top 5 round pitchers we've drafted: 2010 Dan Klein (injured) 2011 Bundy, Mike Wright, Kyle Simon (traded in 2012 and never did anything), Matt Taylor (never got past Frederick) 2012 Gausman, Branden Kline, Poche (didn't sign) 2013 Harvey, Stephen Tarpley (traded, ERA over 5 in majors so far) 2014 Brian Gonzalez, Connaughton (NBA), Hess 2015 Hughes (didn't sign), Cleavinger (traded to PHI in 2017 hasn't gone above AA) 2016 Sedlock, Akin, Dietz, Hannifee (still some hope there) 2017 DL Hall, Lowther, Baumann (still some hope there) Not a great record, but the misfortune of Bundy and Harvey's many injuries really hurt--both have seemed to "develop" alright, just maybe couldn't reach their full potential. I don't know how much better we could have expected overall given most pitchers won't make it anyway. It helps when you get lucky with some lower round picks like Bedard or Means or (yuck) Davies or Hader. And as others have said, it's hard to blame the current regime for the failures of the past.

Yeah, Rule 9.12(a)(1) Comment reads, in part I guess if you want to change the official rules that's fine, but I don't really care. It's fine the way it is IMO.

I’d be more worried if Elias actually believed it.

They have to lie. Kris Bryant lost because he couldn't prove the Cubs manipulated service time, even though everyone knew they did. If the team comes out and says it, there's the proof.

They were only 4-6 in their last ten games? So what that they’d already clinched the division by then, if they’d gotten to 100 wins they’d have been much more confident in the ALCS.

Seems doubtful, he only played 16 games with a 464 OPS under Buck. But Buck said a lot of things so who knows.

You are saying you prefer human. I assume the tech is good enough that human is necessarily less accurate than electronic. So yes, you prefer having bad calls because it’s human. No other way to spin it.