Pickles
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3 minutes ago, Hallas said:
Where are you getting 4 games from framing? He's been worth -12 runs on framing by Fangraphs, so that's the equivalent to 1 win.
I was referencing the article. It was one of the claims being made. And to be fair, it wasn't that he had cost us that much defensively, but that he was projected to over the course of the season.
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The contention that Chirinos has cost us 4 games defensively, almost solely based on his framing, is a laughable proposition.
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13 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
Partially, but that’s not all I wrote. But if you’re cool with Vavra on the bench that’s fine.
I mean I would have preferred Vavra starting too, but I didn't know Mountcastle was hurt until three seconds ago, so I figure they probably have their reasons.
And in light of Mountcastle's injury, (and the trade of Mancini, which everybody was happy with two weeks ago), it's literally the only difference between their regular lineup so the angst doesn't make much sense.
I mean they literally started their top 7 guys, and one guy was dinged up and one guy's been traded.
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3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
So you’re agreeing that they didn’t give themselves their best possible chance to win today?
All these histrionics because Vavra didn't start?
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5 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:
It almost feels like a team that we all expected to win about 67 games this year won't win every game down the stretch against some of the best teams in baseball. Strange.
You were pretty optimistic.
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1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:
Well, I don’t know how common it is to be completely non competitive in these games. It is one thing to lose..it’s another to not even be competitive.
It also could be an indication of how Hyde motivates them and gets them ready for these games.
Well, we weren't non-competitive. We lost 4-1 and they had to bring in their closer.
The only bat that was really out of the lineup was Mountcastle, and he's been horrendous lately.
We lost. A guy pitched very, very well against us today. These things happen. That doesn't mean there's some underlying issue.
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Just now, Sports Guy said:
Huh?
They were winning 52 games a year. They weren't any better the other six days a week.
People had these same complaints about Buck and his "B" day lineups. The fact is, they rest players. And Sunday, due to the day games and travel, is a very popular day to do that. It's quite common all around the league.
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3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
I have been meaning to do the numbers but since Hyde and Elias got here, I would love to see the record of the Orioles for day games on the last game of a series.
It seems like these “getaway” days are always brutal and that’s been the case the whole time they have been here.
What have they been doing the other six days a week since they got here until about 3 months ago?
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2 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:
I’d rather see history…
I'd rather win.
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Ya'll are welcome.
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Just now, winning said:
The avatar looks like a penis.
Ok, Freud.
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A perfect game!
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The Rays pitcher has a perfect game going on right now!!
I can't believe he's pitching a perfect game!!! OMG!!!
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5 minutes ago, PHRESH said:
Personally, I'm ok with just the titles.
I think we have to wait for the Monkeypox pandemic to calm down before we get to the second part of his plan.
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13 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
Well, that isn't a quote and I'd love to see or hear if he actually said those words.
Technicalities.
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Just now, Sports Guy said:
Well yea, command was an issue. It’s always the worry with him but even then, his stuff can be so electric that he misses bats.
But he didn’t have his good fastball and his breaking pitches were pretty mediocre.
His change up was very nice and fooled them but he didn’t have his top stuff today, that much is obvious and yes, the inability to miss bats was an indication of that.
I didn’t find his stuff to be overly impressive today but I also don’t think that’s an indication of anything other than he didn’t have his best stuff today.
This is a perfectly reasonable take.
As I said in another post, if he can command the stuff he had tonight he's a very good starter. It's all about command. And yeah, he probably didn't have his best stuff.
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Just now, baltfan said:
Did you see jaw-dropping, dominant stuff? Lots of guys strike out 6 in almost 4 innings nowadays. Eventually he has a chance to be good, but he is a long way from that now and the raw stuff just wasn’t that amazing.
I saw a LH starter with a 95-97 FB with tremendous natural movement; a plus changup which induced multiple looking Ks, and two breaking balls of different shape that both flashed plus.
If he is consistent and in command of the "stuff" he had today, he's about 90% of what the other guy was, which makes him one hell of a pitcher.
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This is a "big" game. The fact that we're playing them this year is such a pleasant shock for me. This is by far the most surprising season of my life, far beyond 2012, or 1989 as the other two memorable.
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47 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Missed 7 bats..below average swingstr% of just under 15%. This is a guy that had a 40% whiff% on each of his pitches in the minors last year.
His stuff wasn’t impressive today and the stats and his pro career back that up. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have impressive stuff but he rarely got into the upper 90s and even Big Ben said he was expecting to see 100 today. He was more 96 for most of the day.
Swinging strike rate in such a small sample size without the context of the actual game action is almost useless. The reason it was lower today for Hall was that he couldn't throw a strike. The Rays just took pitches and walked or got into good hitters' counts and teed up.
The problem for Hall today wasn't that his stuff "didn't miss bats;" it's that he couldn't command.
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12 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
You do know why it’s important he (or any pitcher) misses bats, right?
You know why Ks are important, right?
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4 minutes ago, baltfan said:
He had 7 swing and misses.
He had 6 Ks in 3+ innings. Watching a changeup go down the middle of the plate because you can't get the bat started is every bit of impressive as a swing and miss.
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My take for the record:
He looked like he has a chance to be pretty close to who was pitching for the other team today, and that's not a bad thing to be.
95-97 fastball. It's easy to say he had no command, but it's more accurate to say it came and went. And it definitely wasn't there in the beginning. The fastball obviously becomes a real weapon if he can control it better.
His best pitch today was his changeup. He controlled it the best; and he got the most Ks on it. A few of them, God forbid, looking.
He controlled his breaking balls better than his fastballs too. Many looked sharp. He got hurt a couple times later on them.
It's going to be all about command with this guy. I don't think that's any innovative insight.
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7 minutes ago, NCRaven said:
Anyone who judges Hall’s stuff based on watching 3+ innings of his first major league appearance needs to reevaluate their scouting skills.
He "didn't miss bats."
Checks notes......
6 Ks in 3+ innings.
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He's far exceeded my expectations. If he can stay healthy and play like this for the next six years, that's a hell of a base to build a team upon.
BP: The Orioles Are In and Out of It
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Well it was also prorated to his playing time, so maybe only half the games. I don't see how that can be claimed. By God, if that's the case Pedro Severino must have been costing us a dozen games the last few years.