Well, I've been told over and over again that we must clear out a regular spot for Kjerstad asap, and either do the same for Ortiz or trade him into such a situation, likewise asap. So it seems that's the general consensus here.
They could get one of Kjerstad/Cowser/Ortiz and then maybe another minor piece. I'm still not sure I'd do it, but that is at least a reasonable framework imo.