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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:
Have the same poll up on twitter.
So far, with 79 votes, it’s 51% under , 49% over.
So, OH i more pessimistic so far.
Surprising result to me.
As one who took the under, I'm not surprised that the OH seems to have better judgment than Twitter.
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11 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:
I like this game!
Grayson Rodriguez 27 Wins 216 IP 243 SO
Corbin Burnes 18 Wins 208.8 225 SO
Craig Kimbrel 72 IP 45 SV 126 SO
It's all fun and games until:
Jackson Holliday: .077/.040/.117 36 runs 9 RBI 9 H 9 BB 225 Ks (-) 3.6 rWAR
Austin Hays: .136/.073/.210 18 Runs 18 RBI 27 H 27 BB 199 Ks (-) 9 rWAR
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4 minutes ago, Malike said:
I still think they can carry him while he learns if the team plays well. He has nothing to prove in AAA, he has shown he can hit AAA pitching, he needs to see ML pitching, it's a huge jump in talent and there is no higher level.
Eh. I think he'll play basically every day, either in the MLB or if he keeps being essentially unplayable, in AAA.
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Just now, Malike said:
That's not necessarily true as we see early on, even if we take your benchmark of 50 more PA's and he's not tearing the cover off of the ball I still think he adjusts and hits the over.
It could be that he's hitting .150 in two weeks, but looks better doing it and they keep rolling with him.
But I really have to think if he continues to K 50% of the time, his rope is not endless, and 75 PAs with 40 Ks would justify sending him down, and wouldn't be kneejerk imo.
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7 minutes ago, Malike said:
I picked the over with the caveat he stays up all season of course and plays regularly as he should.
If he's playing well enough to get the over, they're not sending him down or curtailing his playing time.
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45 minutes ago, Fiver6565 said:
Worst case scenario, what is the number of at bats that would force them to make a decision on sending him back down? Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but what would it truly take? 3 for 100 or something nuts like that?
The reality is, we've seen multiple examples just recently of a touted debut (though not as touted as Holliday), flailing around, then back to AAA for a reset, and then success in the majors. Bradish, Rodriguez, Cowser are the clear examples of this, and Rutschman/Henderson had the struggle but didn't need the send-down. It might require that for Holliday though. Hopefully not, and still too soon to make that call for sure, but you can't just bat .050 for very long without getting the wrong kind of attention, even as a 20 year old rookie. You don't have to do great, but you have to do better than that.
I do think he's looked better in some recent AB's, including the long fly ball yesterday where he just missed his first homer, but even w/ that, the K's haven't slowed down. In reality, we are really just 1 or 2 batted balls away from this becoming a non-issue. If that ball yesterday goes a few more feet onto the flag porch, this discussion is instantly different.
As I posted earlier, I think it's not purely about # of PAs but about how he looks in them.
Gunnar struggled early last year, but he was drawing walks and putting the ball in play.
Holliday is striking out 50% of his PAs. If he continues to do that for another 50 PA, which is essentially 2 weeks of playing every day, I think they'd have to seriously consider sending him down.
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2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
For those voting under, would you have voted under had I asked this question the day they brought him up?
I took the under, and I think I would have taken the under on 3 at the time of his call up.
Of course, I feel much stronger about it now.
The K rate is alarming.
At the time of his call up, I thought no way he'd be sent back down.
But now I think if he keeps King 50% of the time, they probably would send him back down after another 50 PAs or so of that.
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
That makes no sense at all based on anything I’ve seen. What plays has he made that an average 2B wouldn’t make? None that I’ve seen. On the other hand, I’ve seen him boot a certain DP grounder and only get one out, and not catch a tough outfield pop up. Now, I haven’t watched every inning of every game. Maybe I’ve missed 3 above average plays. But I doubt it.
I agree with this wholeheartedly.
The only "above average" play I can recall him making was he made a nice pick with the infield drawn in and a hot shot to his left. He didn't get the runner at the plate but that was not a play that is made every time.
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1 minute ago, ThisIsBirdland said:
I once saw Jordan Westburg lift a burning car off of a trapped mother and child with his bear hands. He crushed the car down into a small ball and then launched it into orbit with a flick of his wrist.
Jordan Westburg showed me a video of him making love to my wife. It was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. He impregnated her and she gave birth to our third son. And he's the best one of the bunch.
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5 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:
At this point, and it's close, Westburg is an even better all around player than Cowser or Henderson.I hope he can sustain his excellence over the long season.
He's not a better player than Henderson. Stop.
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6 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:
Your mom is a terrible poster
My mother is less emotional and more rational about baseball than you are.
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18 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:
He might have one more year in him
You're a terrible poster.
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2 minutes ago, Malike said:
Likely depends on if his wife is going to live with him, I suspect.
I can't imagine he'd live separately from his wife.
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3 minutes ago, Malike said:
Almost nobody would have been upset if they had traded Cowser for Cease. I have receipts too, like 350 pages of them. It's been 24 ABs, but I suspect he's not going to hit .500 for the season and get 10 RBI in every series.
I don't know about upset, but I was dead set against either Cowser or Kjerstad going in exchange for Cease.
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3 hours ago, AlbNYfan said:
Can Jackson PLEASE stop soft tossing throws to first on routine ground balls?? It's like he's throwing change ups to Mounty. The hitters have come close to beating a few times. He certainly must have shown more when he played shortstop.
I feel the same way.
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48 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:
Is he one of the most obscure O's to ever see the field?
When they do those name every player who played for the 2024 O's quiz this upcoming winter, 50% won't remember that he was ever in the organization.
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Means line for the night:
3 IP
1 H
1 R
1 BB
4 K
So a solid line at least.
As an aside, everyone in Norfolk's current lineup has an OPS over 1080. That's silly.
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57 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I wonder if @Pickles would say if that was a good swing decision.
Ha. Missed it. Just tuned in.
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5 minutes ago, dystopia said:
Not all of us treat them as gospel.
No, but too many do.
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1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:
Sure but like others ….hes stuck until he invests in the membership
Was there ever a resolution for Trade Angelos?
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6 minutes ago, .500_OR_BETTER said:
I know - you can't change it but if i could it would be 100_WINS_OR_BETTER
That's the spirit.
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7 minutes ago, .500_OR_BETTER said:
He made is MLB debut last week against the Marlins, so 10K's might not be the norm.
He's young and throws hard. I would say he's very similar to Grayson with a 97+ mph fastball as well as a 90+ mph changeup with movement.
Your handle is outdated. It's not 2010 anymore.
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2 minutes ago, forphase1 said:
But accurate...
No it's not.
It's a "statistic" the obsures the truth.
He started 100 games at 2b, and less as the season wore on, and none in the playoffs.
He was not an everyday 2b for the Orioles.
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5 minutes ago, forphase1 said:
While still playing Frazier in 141 games. As you stated, his defense cratered, yet he STILL got into 141 games. Sure sounds like defense is their #1 priority, no?
That 141 is extremely misleading.
Holliday 2024 fWAR expectations
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Well, the winning has drawn a less informed fan base imo, but it's still far superior to Twitter.