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  1. 40 minutes ago, Frobby said:

    I don’t think there’s any chance that Willems or Basallo make it to Bowie this year.   

    You don’t think with a good showing they can end there as a final placement?   
     

    I hoped they would be in Aberdeen by end of June and with a a solid July/august could be promoted for last month of season for a taste of what’s to come next year.  

  2. 1 hour ago, Otter said:

    I hope you're right, but I'm not buying his explanation.  Even going back to last year when he was called up, I was disappointed in the velocity.  Most pitchers going from starting to relieving see a significant velocity bump, but we didn't see that with Hall.  Scouting reports all had him sitting mid 90s touching upper 90s/100 as a starter in the minors, so I expected him to easily sit in the upper 90s as a reliver.  That didn't happen.  Here we are in May, and the velocity seems to be declining and not increasing with each appearance.  My gut is telling me there's an injury.  Or there's another option that he's intentionally letting up on velocity to try to improve control/command, but that's obviously not working either.   Whatever the reason is, having our best pitching prospect showing mediocre stuff and terrible control and command is not a good thing for a system extremely thin on pitching...

    Was thinking the same thing.  Kinda waiting for a press release that says he’s shut down. 

  3. 1 minute ago, Yossarian said:

    This post is holding up well.  There are only three position players on this team that look like potential major leaguers: Kjerstad, Mayo, and Prieto.  Bowie seems like the weakest team in the system. 

    Agree.  They should get a talent infusion in the second half of the year.  Imagine Holiday, Beavers, Fabian,  Basallo, and  Willems could end there if they all continue to play well.  
     

    Prieto looks like he’s out on some muscle. 

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  4. 5 hours ago, justD said:

    Maybe not terribly relevant, but I found it interesting that the ABS (automated balls and strikes) system was in use today.  I like that what we saw of his ball-strike ratio was true, not at the whim of a minor league ump.  

    His first inning was really awful.  Not great the rest of the way, but that first inning was agonizing to watch.  I hope SG's theory is near the mark. 

    I’m going to start another thread on this but I’m curious what the unintended ramifications of the ABS will be.  IE the batters interference today.  I wonder if the home plate umpire will be more vigilant to other infractions that have gotten a “slide” in the past now that the heavy lifting of calling balls and strikes is off their plate? 
     

    The ball strike ratio was skewed by all the swing and miss at non-competitive pitches…..unless his stuff is just that good :) 

  5. He looked terrible overall.  Missed arm side all day long.  Hit a batter.  The swing decisions by the Bulls were awful.  Had they been more patient, he would have walked 6 and had a 2 ip outing.  He got lucky in first on a batter interference call on a steal attempt (runner reached on an walk).   Had a strike out/CS in 4th.  The 17 whifs kept him in the game, but to me it looked like the majority of those whiffs were on obvious balls.  He gave up some hard contact.  Couple balls just missed going out. 
     

    The curve looked nice.  Got a lot of swing and misses on that pitch.  
     

    He’s got to get some stuff figured out.  

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  6. On 5/4/2023 at 1:04 PM, RVAOsFan said:

    I was looking around at some mocks and write ups this morning and it sounds like he certainly could be a top 10 pick but also saw him as a 10-20 guy.  Guess it just depends on how things unfold.

    Saw him play a game as a freshman in 2021 v. GT and he stole like 5 bases or something ridiculous.  I’ve been a fan since.  His bat has steadily improved each year and ks have dropped

  7. 40 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

    I called out Bradfield in the Cambria Classic thread when @emmett16went for that very reason.  Some mixed results in the eye test it sounds like.

     

    He’s been playing like a man on a mission. I’m going up give him the benefit of the doubt playing in that weird stadium with a difficult roof and difficult batters eye.  He put up numbers in that tourney and really has stepped on the gas since.  He had 30 SB in 44 games and 42 BBS to 26Ks.  15 of his 48 hits are xbh.  By all accounts he’s a good character guy and hard worker.  He’s a steal at 17 and we’d be so lucky if he were available. 

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  8. 5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Once he starts hitting left handed he's good to go.

    His bat is good to go.  I think they want to iron out some some foot work and ensure he can make all the throws they are going to task him with (playing 3B & 2B).  Don’t see him at SS much for MLB Os with the folks in front of him.  But at same time they want him to get reps and be SS ready for a potential trade.  

  9. 10 minutes ago, Pickles said:

    Well, yes that's part of it.  It's getting Adley's bat in the lineup AND not catching him as much, which is kind of the same thing.

    Might be trying help out the “old” 32y/o back-up as well.  I’ve noticed they’ve put Adley in to catch a couple times on “off” days as late inning D replacement after running for Mcann.  Wonder isn’t this is to help take some load off both.  As Santander so emphatically displayed on Tuesday, catching is brutal.  

  10. 6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    You're wording, all of it not just what I posted for, ironically, ease of understanding, wasn't clear.

    It's also not true that Elias didn't participate in the International market in his first year.  Unless you mean he signed with the O's in Nov 2018 and didn't start signing guys until 2019.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-elias-on-international-signing-period

    I agree, I'm very bad at writing my thoughts clearly and concisely :) And, yes if I worded anything wrong it would be technically it was with-in his first year (I went back and re-read and saw how that could be confusing).  I was going by Calendar year.... Elias started 2018 being year 1....first international signing was in 2019 year two.  

    I will work on my writing; I know it's lacking.  

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  11. 15 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

    But here’s the thing though, none of those guys have the upside of an Adley, Gunnar, Grayson or Holliday. 

    Most of the time, you have to get that from the top of the draft, from a 16/17 year old in the Caribbean that you develop, or from an Uber talent in Asia.

    Where was Adley playing when he was 19 y/o?  He had just been drafted in the 40th round and was working his freshman year at Orgeon...  Defining upside is a challenge.  Willems at 19 hammering A ball and has a cannon of an arm.  You could make the argument that he has a higher upside? no

    Last time I checked we have a few pretty interesting 16/17 y/o SSs in the system, who in.....3 years time might have that same high ceiling as the guys you listed.

  12. 7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    This just ticks me off.

    It is simply not true.

    Eduardo Rodriguez, a player having a very nice season, was an International signing by the Orioles,  Schoop has had a successful career in the majors and was an International signee by the Orioles.

    I do not get the appeal of completely dismissing the efforts that were made.  Yes ownership restricted what could be done in that area but it wasn't a total vacuum and I don't understand why folks want to misrepresent what actually happened.

    Is it some form of sucking up to Elias? 

     

    As noted, I was specifically referring to this regime.  They started Nov 2018 and first participated in the Int draft in 2019.  2019 was the first year The Orioles Organization participated in the draft in earnest.  Do you not agree? 

     

    *but when you cut out half my quote I can see how one might get confused...

  13. 4 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

    First let me say, I appreciate the detail of your assessment! I also hope that you are correct about Basallo and Willems. I hope every player affiliated with the Orioles crushes it.

    However, even as hopeful/optimistic about the potential of our international development system to produce serious talent that it sounds like you are, you will have to admit that the domestic talent is going to have a drop off when we are not selecting at the top of the draft (and every round) for 5 consecutive years like we did. That was a HUGE advantage to be able to pick from the very best of the talent pool for half of a decade! If it wasn’t why would we have tanked for so long?

    No doubt.  Those early guys also didn't have the advantage of a polished system to run through, though.

    Coby Mayo, Joey Ortiz, Connor Norby, & Creed Willems make me quite confident in their drafting abilities.

    I'll be keeping a close eye on Fabian, Bright, Wagner, & Ardoin as a litmus test to the continued ability to draft after round 1.  

  14. 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    That is very unlikely 

    I like my chances.  I'd say half the board was convinced that after Adley graduated from the prospect list that we'd fall way down the rankings.   Believe we had 5 top prospects when Adley was at the top of the heap.  How many do we have now?  How many will likely be in future 100 rankings later this summer?  IMO what they are building is sustainable and growable. 

  15. 17 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

    I’m curious in understanding what you mean by “tip of the iceberg”?

    I certainly agree that we are making international gains, I mean if we are being honest there was nowhere to go but up…lol

    But I agree with you that I like some of the early returns and definitely Basallo!

    Even as the international talent base grows the domestic won’t be as top heavy again with the superstar/allstar potential we have in Adley, Gunnar, Grayson, and Holliday. But I think what Elias is building is a system that can continue to produce like the Dodgers, Rays, Guardians, etc.

    But I stick with my original assessment because as good as we hope it may be, I highly doubt that it will ever be as good as it is now. You don’t just find other Adley’s growing on trees. The man is one of the best hitters in baseball ALREADY in his second season at the CATCHER position! There have been few like him at that spot like ever!

    I know some people think it may call my words hyperbole, but when you can only provide a very few examples in the last 30-40 years; you have to recognize how special this truly is!

    No I would prefer that this doesn’t turn out like the Royals or Nats, where we finally pop and then burst and it’s over back to suckdom. But I honestly don’t want to be the Rays either who are always seemingly in it, but can never get over the hump. I would much rather the process/strategy and results of the Astros and Braves. Those 2 have shown to be championship models that are sustainable, built on homegrown talent, very good development, and timely trades.

    My point is we are in year 5 of this regime.  In year 1 they mostly evaluated and started to make some internal and systemic adjustments.  Through years 2 & 3 they completely cleaned house and started to implement their technologies, systems, and training programs.  Not sure the turnover rate, but it was very significant.  In year 2 they participated in the international market for the very first time.  In year 3 they began to build the international facility that will be huge in sales pitches to the international market.  In year 4 they still had a lot of players in the system from the old regime that had not started their training with this group and the very first few players drafted and brought in made it MLB.  Now in year 5, all their systems, technologies, coaches, and staffs are well entrenched in their teachings and processes.  They have a pipeline of American talent and a pipeline of international talent.  The very first international  players are just now appearing on full season teams.  Those were players we had to pick up off the scrap heap.  4 years later Perez has made relationships and inroads with all the 12/13/14 yo's he first met when he came on the job who will be eligible for the 2023 int signing period.  They have a shiny new state of the art facility that they can use as their selling tool along with an established major league development system that has produced top end talent.  There are 7 int prospects in the top 30.  In three years' time when Basallo is the #1 prospect in all of baseball ;) and his future replacement is getting his feet wet in Delmarva and our top 30 has ~15 int. players is when I think our system will be at an 'all time' & 'historic' level.  And if he's able to pick a Willems in rd 8 (assuming he's the real deal - big assumption) then there is no where to go but up for the the future of the system.  

     

     

    Sorry for tangent - back to Westburg :)  My man had 3 hits last night woot woot! 

  16. 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    Yep. Not sure how much we want to bank on Means being really good this year but it sure would be nice. 
     

    It looks like Grayson is starting to settle in. He will still have some growing pains but I think it’s fair to expect a sub 4 ERA from him this year.

    After that, I don’t have high hopes right now.  Bradish doesn’t look good, Kremer is looking like a 1 year wonder, Gibson will be up and down all year because that’s who he is and Wells really is an unknown as a starter for the a full season.

    Maybe Irvin can be the guy we thought he would be but even that is just a back end starter.

    Can Hall develop?  Will Povich move fast and be part of the equation?  
     

    Really can’t see a realistic scenario where the Os don’t need to acquire a difference making starting pitcher.

    Fingers crossed for a positive showing from Hall at noon today :) 

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  17. Did they have to put him on the 26 man, or could they just have put him directly in Norfolk?  Is him being on the 26man purely admin maneuvering?  I don't quite get it.  I understand taking a guy you like that is more talented than your 40th man, but to put him directly onto the 26th is odd to me.  He had a nice year in 2021.  Wonder what they saw that they liked.  Also wonder if Mcann is able to make it the entire year as backup - who knows, maybe Mcann has some stuff he's dealing with that their medical staff thinks might really bear itself in a month or two.  Strange move. 

  18. 24 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

    How can they replace Henderson with Torrens!   That’s almost impossible.  A roster with no backup infielder and two LH 1B/OF?    I think Stowers goes again.   

    Hope to god it's O'Hearn.  I thought that's why we paid him the big bucks was to shuffle a solid back-up between AAA and MLB as needed.  

  19. 28 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

    Yes the Nats had the top end talent of Harper, Strausburg, and Rodon, along with other prospects that they used as ammo in trades to acquire the players necessary to win a World Series. I’m not sure they had the depth of talent that we have, but yes that is a good example.

    But I think the bigger point is those things lining up where you are able to accumulate that amount of talent at once is extremely rare. I would argue that they will never have it as good again as they did then and we won’t as we do now. Well, at least not for a long, long time.

    I’d argue this is just the tip of the ice-berg.  They only started to participate in the International market 3 years ago. They are building a state of the art facility to further enhance that part of the system that has had no part in the current crop.  Sure, we won’t have a 1-1 pick anytime soon but this admin has shown their ability to draft and develop from all rounds of the draft.  As Basallo and a few of the other 2019 J2 guys are showing, once established and furnished with an attractive facility the international pipeline will begin to pump in the next two years.  I’d go out on a limb and say the system in 3 years from now will likely be stronger than it is right now.  

  20. Good info everyone!  I was thinking about a west coast trip to visit my brother  and some friends in the LA/SD area this summer and all the comments have been super helpful. 

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  21. 10 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

    He missed 1 bat tonight.

    Not sure I have ever seen that from a starting pitcher before.

    You know they have that data in real time so just highlights that they fell asleep at the wheel and/or just hung him out to dry.  

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