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Ryan Ripken.

Cito sucks!

I'm not saying they should be cheap. I'm saying I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.

Because I won't want to pay him arbitration prices. I'd rather pay the kid they took second overall league minimum. I'm in favor of identifying and locking up key pieces longterm early. I think we are already past that point with Santander.

You can, but you shouldn't. If the money is made available I think it would be better spent elsewhere, like on trading for a pitcher.

I'm confused. You agreed with my point about the Brewers but you again mention the O's and if they will be ready to contend. My contention is even if the O's are ready to contend Santander won't be a good fit because of the money he will be owed. I'm not looking to dump Santander, but a fair deal is a fair deal, I wouldn't require more than he is worth to move him.

I agree that we should. But honestly, the Rays can afford a higher payroll, they just choose not to because the owner wants a higher ROI. I fear the Orioles will be in the same situation.

Like the Rays? How do the Rays keep that steady river going? Is it by trading guys like Santander? ?

And Schoop had 0 trade value at his arbitration price point which is why the Brewers non-tendered him. 2018 salary (arb)- $8,500,000 2019 salary (FA)- $7,500,000

The Brewers were a losing team?

Very small sample size and probably useless data set but he provided a lot more value when he was in left last season.

And you won't win in the AL East. The O's have to take risks and have some of those risks pan out.

That is 100% something you think. That is not a fact. As for Santander, either he pans out and as a Super 2 makes huge bank in arbitration or he doesn't pan out and becomes a non-tender candidate because he's a super 2. Look at what happened to Schoop.

I'm not saying he will pan out. I'm saying it's a reasonable risk to take for a franchise that needs to win a few risky moves to have a shot at competing. If they play it safe they are never going to win in the AL East. It just won't happen. At some point they need to hit on 17 and draw a four.

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I think you have mutually exclusive requirements.

While not as bad as paying a shortstop to play second base it still isn't a good idea. Also, the team has a left fielder. I'm not sure you understand how Santander being a super 2 changes the math. He's not going to be a good value going forward.

We have a good sense. That's why the O's gave him over 5M. Betting on Kjerstad is a reasonable proposition.

What are you talking about? What emotional reason would the O's have for trading Santander?

Bullepn innings had to be the highest percentage of total innings pitched ever.

I think a lot of folks overvalue Markakis to some degree. He had some very fine seasons early on but settled into being a pretty average (not discounting how impressive average is) player before he hit 30. He peaked at 23-24.

If the O's don't win a few gambles they are never going to beat out the rest of the division. Keeping Santander is a losing proposition in their situation.

Because the team drafted a college right fielder 1-2? While he might bust I don't think it is faulty thinking to plan for Kjerstad to be the right fielder of the future. Hopefully, as an advanced college bat, he'll be ready as early as 2022.

If you released a guy than his salary wasn't prorated.

Elias isn't gaming his service time.