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9 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:
It seems as the option I preferred was not really an option, so getting something is better than nothing.
Obviously I would have rather watched Villar be a part of next seasons team rather than a straight non tender.
This is where I'm at as well. Maybe I'm short sighted, but for me, Easton Lucas is not worth the price of losing Villar's entertainment value and what he will bring to make this summer at least a bit more bearable.
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Good K rates. I'm guessing he's kind of a poor man's Cody Carroll?
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3 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:That seals the deal. I am no longer an Orioles fan. I’ve been a fan since 1982 and a season ticket holder since 1996. I officially will not be renewing my plan next season nor will I watch on tv ever again. Elias is officially the worst gm in history.
Am I the only one that knows this is a joke?
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51 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:
This times 1000! I like the guy and don't mind him as the 26th guy on the bench/player coach. But if he plays then he is blocking someone, whether it be Mountcastle coming up or Mancini playing first. If the Orioles truly are trying to evaluate talent, then playing Davis every day or even the majority of the time is counter productive to that argument.
Yes. Benching Davis allows you to have this type of alignment:
1B: Mancini
CF Hays
DH/LF/RF Santander, Stewart, Mountcastle, Diaz (when he's ready)
In other words, one of Santander, Stewart, Mountcastle, Diaz doesn't play if Davis is a regular.
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1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:
We probably should find out what DJ Stewart and Dwight Smith can do before we get rid of them.
Sure, why not? In Spring Training, Mancini should be playing first full time at ST, and the outfield competition should be between Hays, Santander, Stewart (injured), Mountcastle, Diaz, Mullins, McKenna and Smith. Benching Davis clears a spot in our most talent-rich part of the upper minors - the outfield.
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1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:
We know this is going to be a cold, soulless, "screw the fans" process.
But what is "acceptable" for the end result?
World Series champions?
Playoff contenders every year Elias is here after the "rebuild" is done?
Fighting for first in the East, even if they fall short a few times?
.500 or better and you are happy?
Anything in between?
For me personally, it's 7-10 years (hopefully more) of competitive baseball, in the running for the postseason every year. Something like the Cardinals have going over the last several years - either making the playoffs, or just missing but being in contention. Elias' talent pipeline, if executed correctly, should accomplish that. WS would be great, but it's a crapshoot, as the Nats showed this year.
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33 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Some value exists in freeing up a slot on the 40 and 26 man rosters.
As long as Davis sits on the roster and does not play, then fine. Let Mancini play first to open up the outfield and DH spots to the younger players.
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7 minutes ago, weams said:
A) Surprising on Santana for a rebuilding team.
B) Could the Orioles have interest? (Answering my own question, probably only if they get rid of Davis).
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Just now, jtschrei said:
So the Reds would rather have 31-year old Mike Moustakakis at 4/64 than 28-year old Villar at 1/10? I'm confused.
Same. And not at MM's natural position. I get that MM is more of a "thumper" than Vilar, but a four year commitment to a guy whoo has primarily played 3B his entire career is very questionable, especially when you could get Villar at 1 year 10 for *likely* a small price (prospect between 20 and 30?)
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1 hour ago, Philip said:
I think there’s no such thing as a bad win, but If Elias really thinks that “cosmetic” wins are meaningless, and dumping good players over insignificant salary is the order of the day, the organization should drop prices to almost nothing. Free parking, 1$ Hot Dogs, $5 tickets and so on. If the team is going to be willingly terrible, fine.
But don’t charge MLB prices. The team will make a profit regardless, and this would be a tremendous way to get fans into the seats even if the team is bad. But spending $200 for a family outing at the ballpark to watch the Bobsey Twins falling all over themselves on the diamond is disingenuous at best.
Spot on. Agreed 100%. Would require thinking outside the box, which the Orioles have actually shown the ability to do before (free kids tickets).
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Just now, Enjoy Terror said:
Profar may not be as good but he’s cheaper, so it kinda evens out in this process.
That's my thinking too. That being said, I am surprised no one (seemingly) wants to take a one year shot on Villar for $10M.
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Profar traded to the Padres. Like Villar, he's in his last year of control. Numbers weren't as good last year, though he'll be significantly cheaper.
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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
It costs 10M.
Right, I understand that. The payroll, outside of Davis, should be so incredibly low that paying $10M to a 4 WAR player should not be so terrible.
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4 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:
I couldn't disagree more. We're not playing for next season, we're playing for the future and Villar isn't part of that future. They tried to trade him and no one bit, which is exactly what I said would happen earlier in the year. It's not worth picking up his contract and running the risk of getting stuck with him if the market doesn't heat up. VIllar is a very flawed player with some baggage and the rest of MLB knows that.
I disagree. What is the harm in paying him $10M (or less) and letting him stay for one more year? We have no middle infield prospects whatsoever, so he would not be blocking anyone. Worst case scenario, he isn't as good as last year and you have him on your team for a meaningless season. Best case scenario he plays great and an injury to a contender makes a contender trade for him.
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36 minutes ago, Frobby said:
Roch regurgitates the prior reporting while adding no new information: https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2019/11/are-the-orioles-close-to-trading-bundy.html
Roch gonna Roch. I like him, but the Orioles must tell him next to nothing about player management type stuff.
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14 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:
In rookie ball.
If the Orioles could trade Bundy for Abrams, I'd be shocked if a single person on here would say no.
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2012 was pure magic. Gonna be hard to beat, outside of a future World Series.
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On 11/22/2019 at 5:38 PM, tntoriole said:
1966-1983....Orioles with best record in all of MLB for those years...no better era possible.
And for the MOMENT of the decade...easy for me. And one of the top alltime moments in Os history.
Andino in 2011 has to rank somewhere up there as well, even though it was a losing season.
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Great thread, always fun to look back on a decade and get some perspective. Interesting/cool that three of the major contributors - Davis, Jones, and Tillman - were acquired when the Orioles were "sellers." Hoping some of the pieces we got at the 2018 trade off (Kremer, Diaz, Bannon, Zimmermann, Tate(?)) can be on this list at the end of 2029.
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On 11/9/2019 at 11:45 PM, Philip said:
He can sing, at least...
Hahaha.
There's gotta be a Richie "Ricky" Martin and Jose "Enrique" Iglesias joke in here somewhere too.
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7 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:
The steals yes and OBP yes, but the power is mediocre in this era, even for a middle infielder. I think there are very few middle infielders who can't approach 20 HRs if they get 500+ ABs in the juiced ball era. Also, the point I've tried to make several times is that Villar has yet to string together to great seasons like this. There's inherent risk in signing a player to a 2 - 3 year deal (as some have suggested) who hasn't demonstrated consistency at any point in his career. He's also too old for you to chalk it up to him just maturing as a player. I appreciate the season that Villar had, but we should shake his hand, thank him for his service, and let someone take on the risk of giving him a multi-year deal.
I probably wouldn't give him a mutli-year deal, but it's not ridiculous to expect a decent return for him (one player from a team's top ten prospects and one from their top 20). If you don't get the return, you tender him and hope you can deal him at the deadline.
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59 minutes ago, canonfaz said:
He could be a great mid rotation piece on a contending team. He reminds me of a left handed Miguel Gonzalez (with maybe a little more upside).
That is a very good comparison. I loved Miggy, he was the ultimate "cold-killer." Pitched great at Yankee Stadium too, playoffs included.
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