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3 hours ago, Aristotelian said:
She did not consent to being punched in the face at least per the accusation.
I understand. Maybe she is truthful. But is not uncommon for people to have remorse after an act such as these. I do not claim to know all of the ins and outs, excuse the terrible pun, of this case. Bottom line, there is a reason US citizens are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Maybe he did it, or maybe the alleged victim has $$$ in her eyes. We’ll see.
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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Someone that is unconscious cannot give consent.
That may be true. She could give consent before hand. It may be unlikely, but it could happen. For instance, strangulation/asphyxiation is a common act where the alleged victim wants the sex to continue even though they lose consciousness. This kind of thing is shocking for most people, but it is out there.
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3 hours ago, SteveA said:
Point 1: I never said they were crimes. Is committing a crime the ONLY reason you would not want someone on your team?
Point 2: I don't think it is as clear cut as that. Even with consent, some things are not necessarily legal. I can write up a contract saying I give you express 100% permission to kill me. And after you do so, you can still be arrested for murder.
Steve, I know that I replied to you, but that post was for several folks to help define what constitutes a crime. Killing a human being is quite a different matter. In a criminal proceeding, it IS as simple as that. To be guilty, the state prosecutor has to prove the state’s case “beyond a reasonable doubt.” If Bauer can somehow show the alleged victim likes to have violent sex, and encouraged or endorsed him to do this things to her, is he guilty of any crime? Is that not a reasonable doubt? Crimes against persons, such as violent crimes, are specific intent crimes. They require the state to prove that the alleged suspect specifically intended to harm the alleged victim without the consent of the victim through an unwanted act.
Let me give you an example. When a bench clearing brawl occurs, and guys punch each other. Why does no one go to jail? Because no victim complains, no crime. But if a player wrote out a sworn complaint against a player, there would be possible charges filed. In the NFL, for example, it is understood that you are consenting to getting hit. There is no crime there. Boxing, MMA, etc…
There are some freaky sex folks out there, maybe a lot more than people think. Probably many active professional athletes. There is often victims of remorse the day after sex. They say they were raped, but the story ended up being that they were not because they gave consent. The mere allegation can ruin lives, even if it is proven completely false. I have seen this up close for decades. However, that is not to say that rape does not happen, because clearly it does. In my experience, the majority of reports are not true.
That said, I do not want him in Baltimore. Too much controversy around him, and it takes away from the team focus. Talented dude, but no thanks.
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2 hours ago, SteveA said:
In the case of Bauer, some of the things he (or his lawyer) has freely admitted to in his own defense are pretty bad. Correct me if I am wrong, but he has admitted to having sex with her while she was unconscious and punching her in [her personal region] badly enough to significantly bruise. His defense is that she liked, wanted, and asked for these things.
These things you cite are not crimes if you have consent from the person to strike her in such a way. Depraved as they may be, and shocking to the masses, some people actually do enjoy these things.
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2 hours ago, connja said:
I’m suprised about Stowers given he had a full season of at bats. I’d prefer to let him go into the off-season on this high he should be on.
More at bats, seeing good pitching and refining his swing decisions. They may also be showcasing him for possible trades.
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3 hours ago, Frobby said:
I guess everything’s relative. I’m not disappointed in his .189 ISO, that’s about what I would have expected. I’m not disappointed with his 13.2% BB rate; that’s as good or better than I expected. It’s the .214 BA and 26.7% K rate that have disappointed me. This is a guy who batted .344 in the ACC and struck out 14.3% of the time. His contact skills are not what I thought they’d be.
All good points. I have watched most of the games this year. I have seen the hitters ahead of him pitched around several times, and it seemed like pitchers did not mind facing him because he could not catch up to average fastballs often. If he cannot bring good hard contact, along with his walk rate, he has no other real value. It’s too bad, but as a fan, I look forward to the guys like Neustrom and Stowers. They have earned their shots. Diaz is on his last shot for me.
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Kyle Stowers just stated on MASN during the game that he is going to the AFL.
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Nothing here to disagree with for me.
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16 hours ago, joelala said:
I don’t know anything about what led up to this so out of context it does look dirty albeit badass.
It doesn’t look dirty to me. The camera angle might be a little deceiving, but it appears he may have made some kind of move toward 2B after running through 1B and needed to get back on 1B. The runner has every right to be on base. The fielder/pitcher does not get to dominate the base like that. You could make a case that he pushed him for both to avoid a collision with knees or getting spiked. Those things cause legitimate injury.
He has never been considered a dirty player that I have ever heard. To me, it’s a good kind of competitive toughness that is taught from 9 years old. If a player stands in the middle of first base without providing a path for the runner, the runner can run through them. It is what it is.
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23 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
While I agree with the rest of this I wouldn't say that Stewart was ever thought of as a power hitter. I don't think anyone ever expected him to be say a 30 HR guy.
Maybe not a finished product, but I believe that was the expectation. DJ was thought of as a projected power hitter when drafted by DD. Big strong guy who would grow into his power after some mechanical adjustments with good plate discipline. Power, to me, is more than home runs. Extra base hits add into that equation, but maybe that is just me these days. They projected him to become that guy. He sure wasn’t drafted in round 1 for his speed, arm strength and defense.
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22 hours ago, panick said:
How do you know this?
Because they are there every day with him. I do not mean to say there is a definitive diagnosis or anything like that. I do not mean to speculate, only an example of what may be an issue. They know whether his attitude is good or not. They know what his effort is. They know if he is putting in his work or not, or whether he has other issues.
If they do not know what is going on there, at least in a general way, then they are not good at their jobs. The front office needs to make decisions based on what is going on.
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On 8/30/2021 at 11:24 AM, Matt Bennett said:
I think you may need to readjust your memory of DJ Stewart being hurt a lot.
2015: can’t find any transaction saying he was injured.
2016: can’t find any transaction saying he was injured.
2017: Looks like he missed 10 days in the minors for one injury.
2018: missed 14 days in the minors
2019: missed 49 days combined for a concussion and right ankle sprain.
2020: no missed time.
2021: missed first 9 games of the season and that’s it.
That’s 11 missed days a year.
20 missed days a year if you are starting from when he debuted in the majors and that’s really being skewed by the “major” ankle injury that kept him out a tad over a month. Just doesn’t seem like an injury prone player to me.
Matt, he is always dinged up. He often sits because he needs a few days for an injury that is not quite bad enough to go on the IL.
This was his year to prove he belonged, this was a huge year for him. And he failed. Power hitters with little or no power over the three years of opportunities, should not get a pass because they walk a lot. He needs to be driving the ball much more. Especially when he is a defensive liability.
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There is still obviously something wrong. The guy, when healthy, is an elite prospect. Is there something going on, mentally or such? The team knows, and of course we’ll never hear of it. I am not quite ready to call him a failed prospect, but it is close. He certainly had the most disappointing season in the Orioles’ system. DJ, on the other hand, yes. I do think DJ may lose his roster spot to Rob Neustrom. I do not want to hear about a guy who walks a lot when he needs to be driving in runs. He is blown away by average fastballs, constantly late for three years now, except a 10 day stretch. And he is a DH now. Whatever speed he had, is gone. Next!
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On 9/24/2021 at 12:58 PM, NCRaven said:
I still think it's hard to determine exactly how much their strategy in recent drafts is due to the effects of COVID on the high school and college players and seasons and how much is a deliberate, long-term strategy that will continue post-COVID. Any conclusions that we make now will be based on incomplete information.
Excellent point. Each year’s draft is a case-by-case basis, I think. Their evaluations must have a lot of projection based on small samples and other scouting input to gauge sustainability. They think they got under-priced and under-valued pieces. We’ll see, but I think they did well.
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On 9/17/2021 at 12:04 PM, Sports Guy said:
What would the reasoning be to start him in Delmarva? I agree its possible but I don't think its justifiable.
I am not strongly against him starting in Aberdeen. I would think he will get another 150 at bats at Delmarva. I think that is Elias/Blood’s MO, and I think Mayo can benefit from that. They do not want to send him back down, so start next year in Delmarva and go from there. He can still finish the year in Bowie. Henderson is.
I have heard that low A ball is not the same level as it used to be, so maybe @Frobbyis correct. Perhaps that is best for him. It is interesting to think about. Blood may want to keep challenging him after a great Spring.
If Mayo gets his body in great shape, with more explosiveness and flexibility, that is the most important thing to me.
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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:
I always try not to get too far ahead of myself when prognosticating how quickly a prospect might move. I think Mayo clearly starts in Aberdeen next year. If he puts up numbers from the jump that resemble his Delmarva numbers now, he could get to Bowie very quickly (6-8 weeks). But that’s a huge assumption. Let’s just see how it plays out. I’m thrilled with what Mayo’s done in 2021.
Interesting. One month in Delmarva, and six weeks in the FCL and you think he is ready for Aberdeen at 19? That would be pretty aggressive, but I can see your thought there. I think Elias/Blood are more conservative, maybe start in Delmarva and move up to Aberdeen in June. They seem to want a certain number of at bats with certain skills achieved. They have development plans for every player.
I just hope he works hard on his flexibility, strength and explosiveness. I think next year he could really take off if he improves his body.
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A little surprising, but what has Jones done to stay the last 16 games? Still a good prospect, but has work to do. Probably sent down for Ciuffo to get a look while Severino recovers. Need to see Ciuffo too.
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I don’t know if Mullins will get that return from one great season. Either package would be hard to turn down.
I would prefer the Cardinals package. I am a little biased as I have watched Liberatore and Gorman since they were 14-15. Liberatore would slot right in behind Grayson Rodriguez, and in front of DL Hall. Nolan Gorman would be our 3B for years to come. DeJong is up and down, but solid overall.
I am not not sure if I am sold on Max Meyer as a starter long term, but I do not know as much about him as I would like to. Watson is a lot of projection.
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19 minutes ago, George Zuverink said:
I don’t have to imagine what he looks like. That was me as a high school senior.
Me too.
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Did not mean to hijack the thread, but thanks for indulging me about my passion for the game of youth baseball and development. It was a nice distraction for a few minutes on the 20th anniversary of the worst day in our history. Hug your kids, and play catch with them, even if they are adults. Tomorrow is promised to no one.
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2 hours ago, 7Mo said:
Really good post.
Playing after high school is very, very different than playing in HS. It's easy to believe that coaches beyond HS will be so much better. It's not always the case, in college or pro baseball. I personally know some guys who had that bad coach experience post HS. And it is most definitely a full time job after HS, and without the pats on the back or praise lavished on high school kids.
All the guys I'm aware of that played in college or were drafted fairly high played more than one sport in high school. It's not insignificant that all were good athletes with that natural athletic ability allowing them to be good at more than one sport.
And you're 100% accurate with the year round stuff. Kids with the ability to play in college or be drafted have events at least 10 months a year they could enter or should enter. Late October, November and early December seem to be the only non-active months. Colleges have showcases in late December where they're trying to get the HS kid on their campus during Christmas break. It's hard to turn down those "invitation only" showcases when that college coach is calling you personally.
Thanks for your post and good luck to your youngest guy. Hope he loves playing.
Great great post. The last thing you wrote, “loves playing.” The most important thing, and I know you know that. The will to succeed is born of this, and it comes from the kid, not the parent.
He is 10, a young 11U, born on St. Patty’s Day. A LHP/OF/1B who is not the dominant player my older boy was. He does have excellent athleticism and a beautiful swing. The arm is beginning to get there, good velo, but we need to keep working on repeating the mechanics. Keeping it simple, for sure. Learning about different grips, and a change piece.
I don’t push, in fact, I am laying back some this fall as he plays for a big organization. He wanted to play Fall ball because his Summer was a little short and football did not work for us this Fall. I stopped coaching his team this past summer. Kids are different, and I am just tired. Still throwing BP for him, hitting fungos and such. I love catching his pens, maybe my favorite thing to do these days. On the bucket until I’m 60!
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2 hours ago, Frobby said:
Great answer, thanks. None of my kids were elite athletes, though one gave up baseball at about 16, took up tennis and was good enough to play varsity tennis two years later. I always felt that he stuck with baseball as long as he did because he knew I loved it, and that if he’d started tennis sooner he’d probably have risen a little further in that sport. But he had fun doing it and that’s the main thing.
All a father can ask is that they try their best, and carry themselves with respect for the game, themselves, their teammates and coaches. I think our sons, do play the game we love, in part because of us. It is a father/son experience that I have cherished. Like fishing, hiking or hunting, it is our time. Something passed down, and memories of growth, success and failure. It is a true form of love for one another. Sharing with your son, and son wanting to please the father. Fields of dreams, after all.
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48 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
If he's 220 does that move him off of short?
Not sure. I see him as an athletic 3B, one who can cover a lot of ground with the current shift configurations. Tulowitzki was all that, ARod, Cal…IDK. Depends on where he adds the weight, what proportion. And I do not think he’ll add all of that next year. He may be more than his listed 203 right now. Those listed weights are often off by quite a bit.
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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:
I really liked your whole post. I’m only quoting this part because I find it worthy of separate comment apart from the Bo Jackson discussion. It suggests that the best way to develop a good player is NOT to have them specialize and spend all their time developing the specific skills they need for baseball (at least, through high school), but to develop athleticism by playing all the sports. That’s interesting and I wonder what the ratio is (specialists vs. generalists) among the current crop of successful players.
One thing I noticed in high school is that there were some guys who were really good athletes in every other sport who for some reason couldn’t hit a baseball (or even a softball) with any consistency or authority. And, there were some guys who were only slightly above average athletes who were absolutely great at baseball. And baseball was kind of unique that way.
Thanks. We could write books on this very topic. It is a strange dichotomy in youth sports right now. Here in Florida, we can play baseball for about 10-11 months a year. Doctors tell parents that kids can get overuse injuries, and that kids should take at least four consecutive months off every year with no throwing a baseball. Travel Coaches want their money to continue to flow year round, and tournament outlets like Perfect Game and USSSA want your money as well. So there is tremendous pressure to keep your kid playing all year. The travel ball teams will tell you that your kid will lose his spot on a prestigious team he is on if he takes a season off.
High School coaches often tell kids that if you do not play on the Fall team, you cannot play on the team in the Spring. This is after your son plays the Spring season and then plays in showcases all Summer. It is too much.
For aspiring college and/or pro players, some of the biggest scout showcases occur in the Fall, like the PG Wood Bat Championships. And then there is the tenuous relationships between high school coaches and many travel ball coaches. The egos of both groups are enormous.
But when you get down to it. The parent has the control. My advice, after going through it once, have your athlete play many sports when young. Play at least two sports as they go through their middle and high school years. One of those sports should be one that develops explosiveness and competitiveness. My will against your will, so to speak. Personal trainers are necessary either way.
My son trained with a group called Body Tech, which is where Ryan Mountcastle and many others have trained. They increased his athleticism exponentially. For instance, his box jumps went from 46” to 64” in one year. His body fat disappeared and he was exceptionally quick. He never played better, though he thought he was too skinny, lol. These workouts were difficult to maintain with the baseball team commitments and his AP classes.
Kids need balance. Age is a huge factor, certainly. My son burned out at the end of high school because, in his words, it was a job now. And it was. He misses it now, just three years later. He played only baseball in high school, and he was a higher level prospect. Stanford, Florida and Virginia were recruiting him, among many, starting as a Freshman. But college attention eventually waned with some bat struggles and a bad HS coach experience. His team won a state title, and lost in the title game the following year. He was the starting 3B. He hung it up, despite a few D1 offers, including Duke. He wanted to be a normal young man in college. He had lost his confidence and his drive.
Good athletes who play baseball at early ages, and get solid fundamental coaching, can usually play baseball whenever. We had guys like you wrote about in my high school. But none of them had the coaching that is available today. My son had a teammate in HS who had not played baseball in seven years, until his junior year. He began playing again and became HM all state his senior year. He was raw defensively, but he was an explosive athlete and he could hit. Where he suffered was game speed decisions and fundamental execution, but he was solid overall.
I am not sure I answered your question directly. It is my experience that most good players played other sports growing up. It depends on the factors that I wrote about earlier in this post. Some HS programs resent doing anything outside their program, but that is way out-dated. Successful pro and college players that we know are a mixed bag, but most played other sports growing up. I do think, in general, that most baseball players should focus on baseball beginning their junior years. Pitchers especially. There is too much work to be done in year round throwing programs, which include periods of rest. I will stop now, but I could go on and on. I have a passion for youth baseball as I coach my youngest little fella. Keeps me very busy.
Trevor Bauer
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That is certainly a valid concern, but the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt in court. It is a bit of a gray area, depends on the the totality of the circumstances. There are many many factors to consider in each situation. There are aggravating and mitigating factors.
And to be clear, I am not justifying or defending his actions. I find his character to be distasteful at best. I also detest what society does today when deciding a person’s guilt based on an edited snippet of video, a partial list of “facts,” and the wave of public opinion and ridicule (regardless of fact) because they do not like someone. It is not what America stands for. It ruins lives on a daily basis. It sickens me.