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This is correct.

edit: info below specific to Hector Velasquez.... If like me you forget where guys came from (especially ones that don't play here at all....) here is some info how we acquired and how he previously pitched info. Seems solid for a waiver pickup, reading this it does seem to be more than cash consideration worthy. Doing a waiver and getting a flyer is fairly efficient. https://www.camdenchat.com/2020/3/10/21172708/should-hector-velazquez-get-a-shot-at-orioles-rotation https://wtop.com/baltimore-orioles/2020/03/orioles-claim-rhp-hector-velazquez-on-waivers-from-red-sox/

For Tommy Milone I'd say that is a win. Seems like health has been an issue. If he could make a good turn, he could be interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_5_draft_results Since Richie Martin (as a #1 pick) has a lot of doubters, I was curious to see what type of "solid 3B" might look like from a historic perspective. Clearly not an indication of success of choice this year, but there is really near no comparison. 3B is rarely picked at all. I'd say the likelihood from this avenue is low and would expect in house or waivers are more likely.

There was a bunch of talk/opinions here if you want to see more. Ultimately, specifics unknown still I believe.

Elias has traded Straily/Cashner/Bundy 2019 (all pitching), Milone/Castro/Givens/Velazquez/Bleier 2020 (all pitching) and Villar. Clearly Villar was a very different situation based on money owed. I'm not trying to argue that Nunez is good. But I look at the list above and a lot there isn't either. Hard to make a true comparison based on these examples. I'll give you that.

I wouldn't have thought Milone and Cashner had value. He very well may not, but it may depend more on expectations for return. They aren't exciting moves, but after years of ignoring these international signings, building even small pieces is something. Not arguing you're wrong, but maybe we could get something that is deemed small enough to be better than outright cuts.

Since I made a guess earlier, I'm gonna repost my guess. :) https://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/index.php?/topic/39080-miguel-castro-traded-to-mets-for-lhp-kevin-smith-and-ss-victor-gonzalez/page/6/&tab=comments#comment-2616592 So 250, 275 and 300k bonus guys, international and 17 yo. SS and CF. I think Mike Elias has a type. 2018/2019 draftees for non-international targets. Any more SS/CF guys in that range that played for the Braves or Astros? Haha edit: 2018 J2 signings, https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2018-mlb-international-signings-tracker/ Braves limited, so going http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=682853#/career/R/hitting/2020/ALL ($300k bonus, might be high for Milone with a second player...but I have little to no gauge for these young guys). Astros have lots of options from 2018, but http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=682695#/career/R/hitting/2020/ALL

Considering these other guys got a 3 week crash course, finishing the degree makes sense. Hopefully he's ready to go when the next chance comes.

He is saying any team and we are counted in any team. Cool.

Well, I saw the first link/thread and didn't see the update until this thread, so I am glad the update was posted.

I do think most probably agree that it won't happen. For me, if they don't, I hope it's more that they don't see a massively different assessment from Drungo's and decide it doesn't make sense. Of course if they don't try (or no articles mention at least interest) we'll never know why they didn't go after him.

So you think they buy out iglesias?

With mention of 4th outfielder potential and some glowing remarks for others, I went Lowther/Vavra. The drop overall is interesting. (FWIW I've been wrong pretty much every time, so what do I know...haha)

Was curious for myself, but will post if others are. https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/mlb-raising-minimum-salary-minor-leaguers-2021/story?id=68993778 "The major league minimum is $563,500 this year" I had heard a few say Armstrong may not be back because of arbitration. Even if they settle at 800k, that's not a big difference from the minimum. Although $237k is similar to several of the PTBNL values for international players. So I can at least see someone making a fair argument the O's would consider that difference as important. IDK. If cases are settled early, I do think with slightly lower salaries than above we'll see at least half of these guys back. Santander and Mancini are the ones I most want to watch play another year here. https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2020/10/light-free-agent-winter-workload-for-orioles.html "Shawn Armstrong could become too expensive in Baltimore, which doesn’t throw cash at relievers, but he was outstanding when healthy. " Ok, well there is another potential vote against Armstrong.

Hall and Mountcastle for me. Without video this year I don't see Kjerstad beating these 2, but expect in the 5/6 bucket.

I literally told you I only really don't want the Yankees to win. I want to know what PTBNL from Braves and Astros and assume we'll find out sooner if those teams lose. Otherwise, it doesn't really matter to me.

So usually the easy answer is not the Yankees. But this year, the Astros and Braves can lose sooner. We may as well talk about some really far away players no one really knows.

9 of 18 outs were K's. As I watched there were several deeper counts and felt like there was more work than the no hitter suggested. Still looked good, but no quick innings based on pitch counts.

Hopefully they were predetermined and we just have to wait. If performance based, we will be more than our usually ornery and sad.

https://dknation.draftkings.com/mlb/2020/6/23/21300692/mlb-season-2020-length-standings-through-60-games-2019-last-year https://www.espn.com/mlb/standings/_/group/overall Using the first link to get first 60 and overall, I took the difference to get the last 102 from last season. (With Detroit there is still the 2 game gap, but they were so terrible over this time they were the worst team either way even if they are given 2 wins in that place...) Boston 53-49 over last 102, combined with this year they would be 77-85. Baltimore 35-67, combined 60-102 Detroit 24-77, 47-112 Arizona 55-47, 80-82 Texas 46-56, 68-94 Pittsburgh 40-62, 59-103 Order based on 2020 only (if rules same as historically): #1. Pittsburgh, #2. Texas, #3 Detroit, #4 Boston, #5 Baltimore, #6 Arizona Order based on last 162 games (only doing these 6, Kansas others may move up otherwise...I need to work at some point today, feel free to go deeper). #1. Detroit, #2 Pittsburgh, #3 Baltimore, #4 Texas, #5 Boston, #6 Arizona. edit: feel free to check my math as well, should all be 162 other than Detroit as I mentioned).

As a fan with no more than internet at my disposal (and that hasn't been used to announce anything official), I can offer no more than the positioning based on historical reference. If last year is considered, #5 would be worst case (unless we start talking lottery...).

If rules follow previous years, our 2019 record being worse gives us 5th and them 6th.

5th if we win.

Fair, still think probability points to 5th. But nice to have a 3-4 option still.