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IDK why, but after listing all the stats you did, this word made me laugh out loud at work.

This may be the first time I've ever seen a trade were no one thinks it's bad (on our side). Way to go O's.

I see a bunch of angry Angels fans on Rosenthals tweets, so it must be a good move...haha. Looking forward to more thought out analysis on this guy.

So Cobbs contract listed as 14, 14, 14, 15, adjusted as 7.5, 9.5, 4.5 (COVID prorated) and 10.25. Deferments 6.5 (2022), 4.5 (2023), 4.5 (2024) and 4.75 (2025). Are the first 3 values already in an account that the O's have already "paid"? Meaning the Angels and O's are only negotiating the 10.25 mill salary and 4.75 mill deferred payment? https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/baltimore-orioles/alex-cobb-8473/

So my answer was so complete and undeniable you picked a new reason to disagree.

https://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/index.php?/topic/33581-where-would-richie-martin-fit-on-the-os-top-30/page/3/&tab=comments#comment-2399847 Richie Martin - A's #12/.807 OPS in AA/60 Arm/60 Field https://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/12/10/lukes-2018-rule-5-draft-preference-list/ 10 Richie Martin – Athletics – Utility IF MLB quality defense at SS, plus speed, extreme groundball hitter, lacks the swing or strength to lift the ball. He’s not going to get many extra base hits at the MLB level, and will see his walk rate diminish. The quality of his defense should get him picked. He should be a useful glove first utility infielder but I wouldn’t count on everyday upside. -------------------------------- Richie Martin was 60-60 (can't find a link to the outside source). He wasn't ready overall and it did not go that way. Maybe it's better, but you are asking for Richie Martin and if all they saw was a lesser version, than seeing some site say rated 60 doesn't mean much.

That's what Richie Martin was 2 years ago. He was the best option (at least in the scouts eyes) and struggled mightily. If the options this year weren't seen as strong a candidate as him, then teams passing on SS makes sense. While they is no giant World Series aspirations this year, we should start seeing more and more young pitchers. The known professional defender means more there than the chance of a rule V guy being on par. I'm not excited about Galvis/Sanchez at the plate, but I do hope we'll see a lot of double plays.

Considering we cut pre/psot game shows, announcers, coaches and seems like they are limited dollars all over, it's good that it isn't purely dumping for dumping purposes. Iglesias bought some guys that are interesting (even if there is a dump element...). We spent in J2 and are at least keeping the value we have without cutting loose for nothing. It's a small something, but when they asked these guys to take deferments, I wasn't sure they wouldn't just trade for scraps. Now tomorrow he could trade for scraps and call them diamonds in the rough, but at least some things might be ok to spend a little on...

Yeah, I was replying to the DH part, but didn't specify. I don't expect defensive improvement at this point.

Frobby had an argument related to Nunez being 26 and maybe having a bit of room to grow. No idea where it is, although he always seems good at finding them. It may not make the most roster sense. That is certainly open for conversation. They bring enough value/production that I can still see them taking a shot on both players at the right cost. Not arguing this either, just my thoughts on your original question. I don't think the O's are done with either.

Nunez made 578K last year and was projected to get 3 mill. I think the team had issue with the 3 mill vs the ML/MiL part of things. A 1 yr 1-1.5mill major league contract seems (**feels**) like the O's "willingness" rate. Is that a major league deal he accepts? The door is open until he signs elsewhere and my expectation for him is similar to Hanser.

Alberto and Nunez seemed like guys they'd consider bringing back if the cost came down. Until they are signed and gone, I think the door remains open. edit: so the chance is as high as their willingness to sign cheaply.

Fair, I did see Darvish and Kim (not Snell). And the LeMathiu signing recently as well. Even still that is basically just one busy team among 30. It is something , so I won't argue that, just saying it's mostly quiet/boring even for many teams that aren't is the "$1 million and south" club.

I haven't paid too much attention outside of the O's. I saw the Lindor trade and few smaller things, has there really been much excitement for the entire MLB offseason? Not that the O's can't do more, just seems pretty quiet so far (and again I could just be ignoring the other stuff).

Lord Shen: How... how did you... how did you do it? Po: I don't know. Elbows up; keep your shoulders loose... Lord Shen: Not that. How did you find peace? I took away your NUNEZ. Everything. I scarred you for life. Po: See, that's the thing, Shen. Scars heal. Lord Shen: No, they don't, wounds heal. Po: Oh yeah? What do scars do? They fade, I guess? Lord Shen: I don't care what scars do.

I almost went there, but decided not to open the wound back up....haha

Even 140 / 162 and the O's save 2+ million on Davis. That's an entire Severino!

Got 2 pitchers, lost 2 pitchers. Hopefully upgrades... edit: all RHP, weird world. 18 players taken, 3 position players. 15 RHP, 0 LHP.

Cheap everything, while maintaining a good attitude? Honestly, Hyde maintaining the positive attitude alone is a magnificent accomplishment.

He is in position to try things out and learn with little to no pressure. It's not a bad way to start your coaching career. Whether here or elsewhere people will know not to judge him on his record. Knowing he hasn't been given much to work with and intended tank, they better be judging him based on implementing "the plan" vs pretty much anything else.

Once you're talking about the numbers he is, I do think there are a number of people that would walk away and I'm sure there are more examples out there of people that did. There have been more in the football world lately, although they have been related to injury concerns (Andrew Luck, Luke Kuechly come to mind). These are still different I guess, but for the right reasons people can walk away from millions and I would really imagine it would be easier with millions in hand. For how we'd all react if truly in that place is tough to 100% honestly answer. Few are ever in the position to had made that much and/or needed to make a decision to give up that much. (not questioning your response at all). I do think a decent number would walk away. Coc (I think...not going to find it now) mentioned a settlement. If he got 50% of 2021 and 2022 and then all the deferred money, it's still like $59 million over 17 or so years. Hardly the poor house. This really feels like the O's are trying to push a settlement and he is daring them to release him so he can have it all. Boras negotiated the deal and he usually seems to squeeze everything he can out of teams. I'm sure he's paid based on money players actually collect, so I wonder if there is pressure for Davis from that side as well. At the end of the day, I'd rather not even hear any of this. We are going to have a crappy team, with him being paid the most and be the crappiest player. If he adds being a prickly dick then it's going to make the Davis vs Davis argument much easier for me. Hopefully sooner, but one way or another, I'll be happy for this to end after 2022.

I was just going to post this. Feels like a dare.

With weams just posting Wynns off, that makes it likely 37 now. edit:Orioles claim RHP Ashton Goudeau So maybe they are just trying to keep it at 38 and have the option to choose 2.

I think a Davis trade is 1 in a million, far better than the 1 in 292,201,338 for the powerball.... And no, I am not saying this.... If the money is close and they could save some face by trying the old change of scenery type move. I don't think it will happen, but that's about the only reason I see them trying it.

Historically, I think it locks about a week prior (can't find confirmation), but with the Winter Meetings pushed to from Nov to Dec (6-10th), it would make no sense to be locked because it is very likely to change for many teams.