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Good read on playoff shares https://theathletic.com/5084824/2023/11/23/arizona-diamondbacks-playoff-shares-money/

I’d say it’s pretty close to fully operational. Once the Dominican Facility is complete I’d say it’s fully operational. When I started the thread I was wondering how long it would take to get a player to the MLB. At that point the pipeline is complete and should be delivering players on a yearly basis. That looks to be 2025, a little over 6 years after Perez was hired. It’s been really interesting watching the whole thing unfold. Can’t wait to hear about the grand opening for the Dominican Academy.

Bump. The international guys are starting to filter up through the system. 2021 there were 3 top 20 guys (Basallo, Hernandez, Pinto) 2022 there were 2 top 20 guys (Basallo Bencosme) 2023 there are now 7 top 20 guys (Basallo, Liranzo, Sosa, Arrias, Almeyda, Tavera, DeLeon) Basallo has made it to AA. By the end of the season we should have international players at every level of the system. In 2025 the O’s will have a player in MLB and every level on the minor league system. 7 years after starting the process the pipeline will be complete and fully operational.

When I saw this thread title I read… Mike Elias said upward path will “involve the major league paywall” Melewski

I would really like to see Norby make an impact for the Os next year in LF. I hope he comes to spring training with a chance to win a role in the outfield. I’d love to see 300 ABs out there from him. It’ll likely take trading one or both of Hays/Santander for him to get a chance.

Gunnar, Basallo, Holliday, & Mayo are the 4 biggest talents in the org. Pitchers break. Catching doesn't age well.

Norby & Povich. I could see Tavera sneaking in at 12. I know Tony likes him and if he got some glowing reports his skill-set & age could vault him up the rankings quickly. He is going to be fun to watch next year. Ultimately, it’s gotta be Norby at 11, he’s gonna debut next year and could stick. He’s put up legit #s at AAA. Povich too is going to debut and has the tools to be a starting pitcher.

He’s my #1. 6’5” 240 lefty catcher with hit-ability. The ceiling is a generational talent/something MLB has never seen before.

The thing that excites me the most is the versatility everyone brings. Everyone is athletic and can play multiple positions. That is part of what they do and why they draft for athletes. Just like everyone moves around in the minors, everyone is going to move around at the MLB level as well. Each IF position is likely to have 3 guys get fairly significant time. 1B Mayo/Basallo/Westburg? C Adley/Basallo 2B Holliday/Westburg/Ortiz SS Gunnar/Holiday/Ortiz 3B Gunnar/Mayo/Westburg *Westburg could also see reps in OF balancing out the future heavy LH batting OF and keeping him in the line-up. **Norby is traded or in the outfield. ***Mountcastle & Urias to be traded after 2024 season when they become Arb eligible.

Coby Mayo's two-run home run | 08/30/2023 | MLB.com "That one just landed" He rattled off a full paragraph of info during the hang time on the bomb. I'm not worried about the wall.

It's interesting how close Santander, Hays, and Mountcastle were in the minors and at the MLB level. It's nice to see all the prospects & recent additions are starting with ~.050 head start (MiLB #s) compared to those three. Makes a trade pretty darn palatable. It would almost be surprising not to see Santander traded.

Folks that are potentially getting replaced MiLB #s v. MLB #s Santander .325 .307 Hays .326 .314 Mountcastle .327 .319 O'Hearn .356 .300 Fazier .358 .331 (just for comparison's sake) Urias .379 .330 Mateo .325 .270

Plays good D. Big guy @ 6’4”, fast, good arm, & killer stache. What’s not to like?

Have to admit, didn’t realize how good Soto has been. Just spent a while on his bbref page. Knew he was great, but good grief. If we could somehow get him, count me in. He’d kill it in OPACY.

I think they spend ~20MM on FAs on top of the arb increases.

If Gray has thrown out retirement talk then that’s a red flag for me. Not what I’d like to hear from a guy I’m about to pay handsomely.

Stroman is 5’7”.

I find it funny people clamoring for Stroman as a legit SP when he threw 18 more innings than Tyler wells last year @ 35x the cost while registering a higher BB/9 & lower K/9 rates. Singing Stroman would be a colossal mistake regardless of contract. He’s not a difference maker. E Rod & Gray are difference makers. Sign me up for either lol. It’s all moot because there is a 0% chance we sign either and I’ll frankly be sunrises if we engage in talks with either.

He hit a ball 111+mph in Oakland so hard and so low it hit the outfield fence faster and harder than anything I can remember. It did seem like he hit some balls to the wrong part of the park a few times. I was pleased with his debut. I expect a big year from him next year.

Mayo looks like he could be special. I think he will struggle at first, like he did in AAA. He has big levers and it’ll take him time to get everything in sink against the highest level. I think his 2024 MLB numbers will be kinda ugly. I think he goes off in 2025 pretty much out of the gate. Just like AAA, after 100-150 ABs he’ll adjust and rake. I think they’ll keep him down at AAA for a good portion of the year.

Mayo played 1/3 of his games at 1B after moving up to AAA. Basallo similarly played more 1B when moving up. Might have to do with other players at their positions, but they are def both getting reps at 1B.

Stroman opted out. Stroman, Giolito, Gray are all looking at ~3/60. Any chance we bid on one of those 3? I don’t see any other “realistic” FA starting pitchers that are upgrades over the Gibson type.

The GS 0-2 in the AAA championship made me re evaluate He has some serious in-game juice.

I don’t want to get rid of either. I like them both. Povich had an issue with the HR this year giving up 18. McDemott gave up 9 this year. That was the main difference between their seasons (and their eras). McDermott did give up 17 last year, however so something to keep an eye on. McDermott walked 2 more batters (68) in 7 fewer innings (119). Povich had 171 Ks in 126ip v. McDermott 152 in 119ip. All this to say they are super similar. I think we see big improvement from both. I like that Povich is 20 months younger and his LH profile works well at OPACY of all else remains the same.

Why a landslide? Povich is incredibly frustrating but their production is fairly similar.