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    Nevin

    in Orioles Talk

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    3 minutes ago, Explosivo said:

    Replace Nevin and arauz with Gunnar and Jordan. Move Gunnar/Urias to third, Jordan/Odor to second, Mateo/Jordan at short.

    it sure would be nice. 

    Elias made a point in his last interview to say they like Westburg & Henderson alternating at  SS/3b at every level they played so my guess is you will see that at the major league level to start. 
     

    Urias is much better at 2b. 

    Nevin

    in Orioles Talk

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    54 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

    Yeah, they need to bring up those three guys up and have them take their lumps over the last 12 weeks so they are ready to hit the ground running on Opening Day next year.

    I want to figure out whether we can pencil in those 3 for 2B/SS/3B next year or whether they need to add a veteran infielder in the offseason.

    Urias and Mateo should be fighting for the utility infielder spot next year but they could probably carry all 5 of them if they felt so inclined.

    Nevin is not a big leaguer on a team that hopes to compete. He is a short term fill in for when your 3rd baseman gets hurt. Odor is the same, but at second. Guys that are potentially slightly over replacement level but don't hit enough or play enough defensive positions well enough to carry on a Major League bench.

    Good post. I am higher on Mateo’s potential however. Off-season hitting instruction? Cuban players always take longer to blossom. No way in the world do I not cover Mateo in the off-season. 

    Nevin

    in Orioles Talk

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    1 hour ago, DEOriolesfan said:

    He's in the starting lineup today and I know it's a nice story with his dad in the opposing dugout. But is it fair to say that he should be sent down after this series is over? He's hitting .181 and has 5 hits over his last 38 at bats. Urias will be the everyday 3B going forward and it's not like Nevin is pinch hit guy nor does he qualify as a late inning replacement on defense or as a pinch runner.

    Bannon was sent down after 4 games and only 14 AB's. Gutierrez was sent down because he wasn't hitting either. How long of a leash does Nevin get?

    Agree 110%. Spot on. After this series, so many more deserving players at Norfolk (Bannon, my bff Guterriez and of course Westburg/Henderson). 

    Heston Kjerstad 2022

    in Minors

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    24 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

    But it's an empty .460!  😄

    Unbelievable. They can’t dare criticize anything. He should have moved up last week (if what Frobby says is true). Only other thing I can think of is he knows someone in the area? I dunno. Bonkers. They promoted Cowser & Norby for much less. 

    Elias on the radio last night

    in Orioles Talk

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    6 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

    Grayson is just taking it slow to be ready for the playoffs. Not a lot of teams out there want to see GR and Hall in a short series. 

    Ha. That would be great but Elias enjoys the tank too much I am afraid. Hope I am wrong. 

    Let’s Be Buyers

    in Orioles Talk

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    4 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

    I agree that they need to identify redundancy in the Minors and package some type of prospects with vets to get the best return. 

     

    I don't think trading 2 of the vets together will optimize the return.

     

    Nevin unfortunately has little to no trade value. I wish he were a better hitter, but he seemingly doesn't do any one skill at the plate well.

    Not saying he has much value but if I were a rebuilding club, I’d def take a flyer as a 2nd/ third piece.

    Let’s Be Buyers

    in Orioles Talk

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    5 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

    We can buy simply by just calling up Hall, Gunnar, Westburg, and Vavra. 

    Hall is not ready. But your point is good however, like I mentioned in post above, you are going to lose some guys anyways in the off-season to the rule 5, so why not use that capital now? 

    Baumler scratched from his start today?

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    20 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

    I think the real issue here is that almost all of the 20 years old and below pitchers in the system are Latin. Elias has almost totally ignored high school pitching.

    Yeah, if he doesn’t go heavy on pitching in this year’s draft, we should be concerned. 

    Let’s Be Buyers

    in Orioles Talk

    Posted

    I suggested the same with Wildcard a month ago. You can buy and sell successfully but has Elias proved he can do either successfully? 
     

    Most on here will poo-poo going for the wildcard. Frankly, I don’t care, most would argue if the sky is blue.
     

    I think they should keep Mancini, see what the offers are for Santander, Lyles, Tate & Lopez and use your top farm system to acquire some salary dumps, particularly SPs. No way do I trade Batista.
     

    Our top ranked guys at 30-40 (which some will need to be protected for rule 5)can net you more than top 15 guys from other farm systems given our overall farm system ranking. Posters on here love to use the straw man and say, no way am I trading Hall or Gunnar. Of course not, but if you don’t trade some of these guys closer to 25-40 you are going to lose them anyways. I think even someone like Nevin still has some value if packaged with other prospects. Prove your scouting abilities Elias. Trade the guys you think have shortcomings before their value goes to zero. 

    Elias on the radio last night

    in Orioles Talk

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    12 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

    That would not have been Elias' style. I don't think we see Hall until after the All-Star break and until after he has a sustained success. One amazing start is not going to change his mind. It also doesn't hurt the team's current starting pitching has been good.

    I think those wanting Hall to be recalled haven’t watched him & Rodriquez at Norfolk. Rodriquez in a different hemisphere. Hall, as Elias stated, needs to work on walk totals and consistency. He might be able to be a great setup guy right now but I doubt the Os wanna start there with him. 

    2022 MLB Draft Discussion (Use this thread to discuss all picks, not Orioles picks)

    in O's Amateur Draft and International Signings

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    16 hours ago, LookinUp said:

    Re: take BPA versus targeting pitching.

    1. I think they might take the pitcher if Sig's computer rankings are close.

    2. I think Sig's computer rankings ascribe a lot of risk to pitchers.

    3. I think we'll still pass on pitchers that people on this board, and even other teams, think are BPA or close to it but that our own models don't.

    Wikipedia:

    2005, Sig Mejdal was recruited to do sabermetrics for the St. Louis Cardinals' new analytics department.[12] He took 22 months of data from college baseball games and ran it through an algorithm to determine the likely performance and stats baseball players would achieve.[13] According to Sports Illustrated, "[o]ver the next seven seasons the Cardinals would draft more players who became big leaguers than any other organization."[4] He was promoted to senior quantitative analyst in 2008[14] and director of amateur draft analysis in January 2011.[15][16] Mejdal created a formula to predict the risk of injury to baseball players[17] and contributed a section on injury probability to The Bill James Handbook.[18]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_Mejdal

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