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Unrealistic? The organization drafted them as TOR type guys. They are the ones that feed us the expectations. Bundy is out of options and has yet to make a start for the Orioles.

Not me.

I don't pay them much attention.

Now the National media going out of its way to have someone cover Bundy's starts in the minors, that fed my expectations.

But then he got hurt.

They almost always get hurt.

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Gausman has panned out.

Heck Bundy is pretty close to panning out.

Folks have unrealistic expectations when it comes to players selected in the draft.

I have to ask then, why is it so imperative to hold on to those draft picks in the first place, especially if it is for a worthwhile player?

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Not me.

I don't pay them much attention.

Now the National media going out of its way to have someone cover Bundy's starts in the minors, that fed my expectations.

But then he got hurt.

They almost always get hurt.

Seems the Orioles top pitching prospects get hurt more often. But that may be because I'm not too informed about other teams top prispects.

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I have to ask then, why is it so imperative to hold on to those draft picks in the first place, especially if it is for a worthwhile player?

Andrew Miller helped get the Orioles to the ALCS. That's worthwhile to me. If EROD pans out, more power to the Red Sox. It was a trade that helped the Orioles that year.

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I have to ask then, why is it so imperative to hold on to those draft picks in the first place, especially if it is for a worthwhile player?

Because the payoff is so ridiculous when a player does hit.

And of course the reality of it being the best way for the O's to add talent, since they won't pay up in the international market, won't pay posting fees, won't give opt outs.

They won't do a lot of things.

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Unrealistic? The organization drafted them as TOR type guys. They are the ones that feed us the expectations. Bundy is out of options and has yet to make a start for the Orioles.

Lol.... Harvey had a surgery for sports hernia. He'll be pitching this year. Hes also just 21. Bundy will be in rotation next year at age 23 and that includes tommy John surgery and shoulder issue.

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Lol.... Harvey had a surgery for sports hernia. He'll be pitching this year. Hes also just 21. Bundy will be in rotation next year at age 23 and that includes tommy John surgery and shoulder issue.

Whats your point? That Harvey and Bundy will succeed in the majors?

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Whats your point? That Harvey and Bundy will succeed in the majors?

My point is it takes time for two HS kids(pitchers) to get to the majors and be TOR guys. Tillman was called up at 20 and allowed to find his way on bad teams, just like Arrieta. Took Tilly 3 years and at age 24. Most "developed" pitchers in drafts are color guys who are 20/21/22 years old and still spend a year or more in the minors.

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My point is it takes time for two HS kids(pitchers) to get to the majors and be TOR guys. Tillman was called up at 20 and allowed to find his way on bad teams, just like Arrieta. Took Tilly 3 years and at age 24. Most "developed" pitchers in drafts are color guys who are 20/21/22 years old and still spend a year or more in the minors.

Older. Not color. Gotta watch my auto correct.

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My point is it takes time for two HS kids(pitchers) to get to the majors and be TOR guys. Tillman was called up at 20 and allowed to find his way on bad teams, just like Arrieta. Took Tilly 3 years and at age 24. Most "developed" pitchers in drafts are color guys who are 20/21/22 years old and still spend a year or more in the minors.

How much of that is "time to develop" and how much is the system trying to develop them. Harvey isn't even 21, and can't stay on the field. That's concerning, for a guy as young as him. Maybe they will develop. I'm not ready to give up on them. My point was, high upside doesn't guarantee success. That's all I'm saying.

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You're being shortsighted. This gravy train will end very soon without a good farm system.

Aren't you the charming one! Being an Orioles fan since 1968 qualifies me as a lot of things...lol, but shortsighted is not one of them. I've seen a lot of baseball in my life. Every team that has a goal of winning a championship of any kind has hard decisions to make especially the closer they get to that goal. Generally speaking there's always some kind of window of contention. Every move the Orioles have made has been done with the intention of winning now. I have no problem with that. In fact it's been refreshing. For a great number of years (before Duquette and to some extent AM) the Orioles held on to "prospects" that they thought were game changers. Nary a one of them amounted to anything. Weve heard too many times of a cavalry or the next sure thing. Go down the line from Coppinger to Ponson to Riley to Loewen to Matusz to Bundy. There are no sure things with prospects. That's why they are called prospects. There will come a day when Baltimore rebuilds it happens to every club. When it happens I'll root for them just as I do every year. Who knows they might even have a fire sale of sorts sometime in the next year that delivers a boat load of prospects. The point is we dont always know the inner workings of the warehouse. I'll say this though, I've had more confidence these last 3-4 years with Buck and Dan leading this team than any other regime since Gillick. These are true baseball men. Their jobs are not easy and they make hard decisions every year whether its letting a Markakis go, (the right move although i hated it) trading a hot prospect like ERod (who is still trying to find his way and who knows may never) for a dynamite setup guy like Andrew Miller, making an under radar move like trading for Brad Brach, or determining someone like Chen isn't worth the money, especially when he was protected in a number of situations. The easy thing to do here is criticize, it's cathartic....I get that. And by no means am I going to change your mind. I really don't want to and nothing Im going to say will do that. Some of the most respected posters on this board understand the good job they are doing. Are they perfect? No. But they're making enough smart decisions to keep us consistently in contention.

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Aren't you the charming one! Being an Orioles fan since 1968 qualifies me as a lot of things...lol, but shortsighted is not one of them. I've seen a lot of baseball in my life. Every team that has a goal of winning a championship of any kind has hard decisions to make especially the closer they get to that goal. Generally speaking there's always some kind of window of contention. Every move the Orioles have made has been done with the intention of winning now. I have no problem with that. In fact it's been refreshing. For a great number of years (before Duquette and to some extent AM) the Orioles held on to "prospects" that they thought were game changers. Nary a one of them amounted to anything. Weve heard too many times of a cavalry or the next sure thing. Go down the line from Coppinger to Ponson to Riley to Loewen to Matusz to Bundy. There are no sure things with prospects. That's why they are called prospects. There will come a day when Baltimore rebuilds it happens to every club. When it happens I'll root for them just as I do every year. Who knows they might even have a fire sale of sorts sometime in the next year that delivers a boat load of prospects. The point is we dont always know the inner workings of the warehouse. I'll say this though, I've had more confidence these last 3-4 years with Buck and Dan leading this team than any other regime since Gillick. These are true baseball men. Their jobs are not easy and they make hard decisions every year whether its letting a Markakis go, (the right move although i hated it) trading a hot prospect like ERod (who is still trying to find his way and who knows may never) for a dynamite setup guy like Andrew Miller, making an under radar move like trading for Brad Brach, or determining someone like Chen isn't worth the money, especially when he was protected in a number of situations. The easy thing to do here is criticize, it's cathartic....I get that. And by no means am I going to change your mind. I really don't want to and nothing Im going to say will do that. Some of the most respected posters on this board understand the good job they are doing. Are they perfect? No. But they're making enough smart decisions to keep us consistently in contention.

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