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I was always a big supporter of the Miller trade. I thought he would help us win it all and I never liked ERod much. I have my issues with DD for sure but this was never one of them.

I hated the trade because it was for a rental reliever when the Orioles had one of the best bullpens in baseball. If the Orioles had a glaring need and they traded E-Rod for a player with a few years of team control, I wouldn't have any problem trading him away. The Orioles traded a talented lefty in Josh Hader but they got a SP with 2.5 years of team control in Bud Norris. I was fine with that trade and still am. The Rodriguez trade never made any sense because at best they were going to get a 1.0 WAR reliever out of it. As bad as Rodriguez has been, he still has accumulated more WAR (1.6) than Miller during his time with the Orioles (0.9). It was a bad trade any way you look at it.

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That sounds pretty stupid. The Red Sox were a last place team going nowhere and Miller was going to be a FA. They could have signed him just like the Yankees did. They did the smart thing and got the best prospect they could for him. ERod was great in the minors for Boston and looked very good last year. Anyone from the Boston side criticizing it now probably isn't the brightest bulb in the pack.

Sort of like people on here criticizing trading Hader or E-Rod on here. We traded b-level prospects for proven commodities and people complain.

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I hated the trade because it was for a rental reliever when the Orioles had one of the best bullpens in baseball. If the Orioles had a glaring need and they traded E-Rod for a player with a few years of team control, I wouldn't have any problem trading him away. The Orioles traded a talented lefty in Josh Hader but they got a SP with 2.5 years of team control in Bud Norris. I was fine with that trade and still am. The Rodriguez trade never made any sense because at best they were going to get a 1.0 WAR reliever out of it. As bad as Rodriguez has been, he still has accumulated more WAR (1.6) than Miller during his time with the Orioles (0.9). It was a bad trade any way you look at it.

1.6 vs .9 WAR? One was over a couple of months the other over a year and a half. You are comparing apples and oranges.

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That sounds pretty stupid. The Red Sox were a last place team going nowhere and Miller was going to be a FA. They could have signed him just like the Yankees did. They did the smart thing and got the best prospect they could for him. ERod was great in the minors for Boston and looked very good last year. Anyone from the Boston side criticizing it now probably isn't the brightest bulb in the pack.

Criticizing the trade from the Orioles end is pretty stupid. The Orioles were a first place team trying to sure up the pen to win a championship, while ERod was struggling mightily in the minors and was not going to help the major league team anytime soon, if ever.

Dan did the smart thing and saw an opportunity to possibly win a championship, and got the best arm he could for ERod at the time considering his trending down/terrible performance in the minors. Anyone from the Orioles side criticizing the move probably isn't the brightest bulb in the pack.

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I hated the trade because it was for a rental reliever when the Orioles had one of the best bullpens in baseball. If the Orioles had a glaring need and they traded E-Rod for a player with a few years of team control, I wouldn't have any problem trading him away. The Orioles traded a talented lefty in Josh Hader but they got a SP with 2.5 years of team control in Bud Norris. I was fine with that trade and still am. The Rodriguez trade never made any sense because at best they were going to get a 1.0 WAR reliever out of it. As bad as Rodriguez has been, he still has accumulated more WAR (1.6) than Miller during his time with the Orioles (0.9). It was a bad trade any way you look at it.

A WAR when you need is is better than a WAR and a half when you don't. You always trade time for amplitude.

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That sounds pretty stupid. The Red Sox were a last place team going nowhere and Miller was going to be a FA. They could have signed him just like the Yankees did. They did the smart thing and got the best prospect they could for him. ERod was great in the minors for Boston and looked very good last year. Anyone from the Boston side criticizing it now probably isn't the brightest bulb in the pack.

Agreed.

ERod will turn it around.

People are forgetting he's still only 23. Had a solid year w/ Boston last year. Tore up the minors for Boston as well. Had some injury problems this year out of the gate and now they're tinkering with his delivery.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat.

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Agreed.

ERod will turn it around.

People are forgetting he's still only 23. Had a solid year w/ Boston last year. Tore up the minors for Boston as well. Had some injury problems this year out of the gate and now they're tinkering with his delivery.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat.

I'd give them Tyler Wilson for him.

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I find it interesting how much the general tone around E-Rod and the deal has changed (less so here than other places) has changed based on--in essence--six starts at the big league level this year.

I still look at the deal the same way I did back when it was made:

You're giving up potential and future for present. It's the same principle as any deal you make...it's time value of money. Or in this case, time value of production. A half a season of dominance now when you're pushing for the playoffs is worth way more than it is in the future. As such, the WAR for WAR argument is invalid.

The deal wasn't a bad one at the time. The starting pitching was a question, but was producing in 2014 so going for a reliever to lengthen the pen and take pressure off both the pen and the rotation at the same time made plenty of sense. You went after someone who was one of the best at what he did, can't be mad at that. I'm much happier with that than giving up a prospect of value for an average outfielder or a mid-rotation (at best) starter as has been the O's calling card more often than not.

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ERod left here with a chip on his shoulder about the org.

Not sure, how he feels or would act, if he was back here.

I am sure he would like it better than Boston where they scream at him and boo him.

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ERod throws 95, has better minor league numbers than Lee, and is younger than Lee.

Not to mention that ERod had a solid half season in the majors last year and Lee has never pitched above AA.

ERod is a mess right now.

This is from the Boston Herald.

“The bottom line is he’s capable of more,” Farrell said. “We’re capable of more, we need to get better, and we had a chance to share that here after the game tonight. You know what? We collectively have to get better. To continue to fall behind as much as we are of late, we’re more talented than that.”

Rodriguez’ velocity might have been down one or two miles per hour, but the location seemed to be the biggest issue as the Rays teed off on everything he had to offer. He allowed five runs in the first inning alone.

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