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Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

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I'm not arguing with the reasons people go play ball for $1000/month, just the post I was quoting that said a lot of players end up ahead of their non-athlete peers. I think 80+% of the guys on the Keys will earn less in baseball than whatever their buddies in HS did for a living during those years. But that's what they want to do. It's fine, up to the point where they're bumming rooms for a place to sleep and having trouble affording healthy food.

I agree with that. I don't think anyone gets into pro ball because that's how they expect to make their living all of their life. I think most guys give it a shot, then if they aren't good enough, they go do something else. I agree that nutrition should be improved and that teams should be required to provide meals to the home and away teams, but at the same time, I haven't seen too many fat baseball players.

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I agree with that. I don't think anyone gets into pro ball because that's how they expect to make their living all of their life. I think most guys give it a shot, then if they aren't good enough, they go do something else. I agree that nutrition should be improved and that teams should be required to provide meals to the home and away teams, but at the same time, I haven't seen too many fat baseball players.

Colon, Sabathia and Fielder excluded.

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Don't mean to get too political....and I will stop aftetr this post.....but that is my point, everyone's livable wage is different. One person may be happy with $8 per hour someone else at $15, another at $50. Hard to set a livable minimum when there is no agreement on what is livable.

At the end of the day, if a person choose to live the lifestyle of a minor leaguer he understands what he's getting into. 1000s of young men choose to take on this lifestyle on order for a chance to make it to the major leagues. Even if they don't make it they can say they were a professional baseball player, something just about every young baseball players aspires to. I've been around the minors at all levels and I would say the vast majority of the players are happy to be doing what they are doing. In this entitled generations we're starting to see complaints, but at the end of the day, if you don't like it, do something else because ten guys will fight to take your place.

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Livable wage is also very dependent on the part of the country your are in. An apartment for someone in Long Island is going to be significantly higher that for someone living in West Texas. If a significant portion of salary goes to having a place to live then economically it's in the best interest of a minor leaguer to play in the location with the lowest overall standard of living as more money can be allocated to better food, savings, etc.

Don't mean to get too political....and I will stop aftetr this post.....but that is my point, everyone's livable wage is different. One person may be happy with $8 per hour someone else at $15, another at $50. Hard to set a livable minimum when there is no agreement on what is livable.
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Livable wage is also very dependent on the part of the country your are in. An apartment for someone in Long Island is going to be significantly higher that for someone living in West Texas. If a significant portion of salary goes to having a place to live then economically it's in the best interest of a minor leaguer to play in the location with the lowest overall standard of living as more money can be allocated to better food, savings, etc.
Yeah. Let's not debate the economics of a living wage. The idea here is this in not meant to be something that you can make living at. Now should it be? That is an interesting conversation right there. These "kids" are living a dream, like my rock star nephew. Some hit it big as well. The entire world of minor league baseball is all about getting your one shot. And not blowing it. Tony really does know what he is talking about here.
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Yeah. Let's not debate the economics of a living wage. The idea here is this in not meant to be something that you can make living at. Now should it be? That is an interesting conversation right there. These "kids" are living a dream, like my rock star nephew. Some hit it big as well. The entire world of minor league baseball is all about getting your one shot. And not blowing it. Tony really does know what he is talking about here.

No arguments here, was just pointing out that the term "livable wage" is relative to where you live and is not something that MLB, the US Gov't nor anyone else can set a one size fits all solution to.

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No arguments here, was just pointing out that the term "livable wage" is relative to where you live and is not something that MLB, the US Gov't nor anyone else can set a one size fits all solution to.

I have no problem with folks doing real jobs having a floor no matter where they live. I have no interest in living as part of the other world.

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It is supply and demand. No one is paying big tv contracts to watch minor league players. Major league players have leverage to get the big bucks because they are the best of the best. Just about all of the players in the minors either got a free college education or had the chance to get one. Most of us mere mortals never get that opportunity. They choose to chase the dream. If you are Manny Machado then you don't spend a whole lot of time eating Subway (setting aside his signing bonus).

Nobody is paying to watch Ubaldo Jimenez either, and he makes $15 million a year. It's never as simple as merely "supply and demand". It's also about influences of unions, law and whatever the league thinks it can get away with.

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Nobody is paying to watch Ubaldo Jimenez either, and he makes $15 million a year. It's never as simple as merely "supply and demand". It's also about influences of unions, law and whatever the league thinks it can get away with.

It's as simple as supply and demand. Try as you may, you'll likely not win Wimbelton.

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College sports is like playing for the Soviets. You do it for the love of your country/school while they make $ off you. Unlike the Soviets, you at least get free education out of it, and if the program is clean; then you actually know a thing or two coming out of college

Please, the vast majority of colleges make no money on their sports programs, and even the ones that do make no money on most of their sports programs. The players that do make their colleges a lot of money are usually paid in the form of a free education and free room and board. Payment does not have to come in the form of a salary. If these students start getting a salary they can say goodbye to getting a free education, which in the long run is far more valuable.

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