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10 hours ago, weams said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/major-league-baseball-cocaine_us_597b505ae4b02a4ebb75150b

Not sure if this is Oriole Relevant So I may move it shortly.

How hell is this still an issue in baseball in 2017? You'd think they'd catch the guys who are doing it. Please Jesus, make sure Manny is sober and sane. He's a guy from a city built on money from cocaine in the 80's. Hell, its still a big coke hub. 

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I'm just surprised to hear that some MLB players can "wake and bake" on game days. Cocaine, I get. But playing at that level while stoned seems like it would be incredibly difficult.

Plus you would almost expect to see guys in the bullpen just eating Count Chocula right out of the box.

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5 minutes ago, InsideCoroner said:

I'm just surprised to hear that some MLB players can "wake and bake" on game days. Cocaine, I get. But playing at that level while stoned seems like it would be incredibly difficult.

Plus you would almost expect to see guys in the bullpen just eating Count Chocula right out of the box.

I've known a handful of people who are regular pot users, and a little in the morning wouldn't affect physical performance later in the day.  

 

6 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

How hell is this still an issue in baseball in 2017? You'd think they'd catch the guys who are doing it. Please Jesus, make sure Manny is sober and sane. He's a guy from a city built on money from cocaine in the 80's. Hell, its still a big coke hub. 

That's not fair to Manny (not saying he uses, but just that he's no more likely than anyone else on the team) the only predictor of cocaine use - in my experience - is amount of disposable income.  

Also, it's extremely hard to catch people for cocaine use because in is only detectable for a short time after use.  I'm guessing they don't test regularly for non-PEDs because they don't care about pot use and pot is the one drug that is detectable for a while after use, so pretty much they'd just catch pot users (which I'm sure the league is not inclined to do since it's legal many places).

 

Personally, I don't care what players use, as long as they aren't abusing it.  Hopefully, abusers can get the help they need without fear of being punished.

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