Tony-OH

If the salaries of a questionable 3B coach and a pitching coach are the main factors in not renewing them, then this organization is in big, big trouble financially. Especially since major league coaching salaries typically pale in comparison to even a first year player. I don't know the particulars here, but I have a hard time grasping that their salaries paid any part in the decision to not renew them. While the team might be restructuring their business plan, if that was told to The Athletic, and I'm not doubting Connolly was told that, it may have been a way to give them a send off that did not hurt their reputations. Here's how we'll know though. If arbitration eligible players like Nunez, Alberto, Armstrong or Severino are traded away for basically nothing to avoid arbitration raises then we can have some serious questions.

Yes, it does seem like a consistent narrative.

Wait, do you really think the Orioles got rid of coaches because of salary or is this part of your schtick?

I heard Brocail was not brought back, not that he didn't want to come back. Basically his two year contract was not renewed.

Good 'ol Hughie. The Rudy Stein of his day!

Funny, I just saw this... Seems like a lifetime ago, Thanks D for the find!

The rule really needs to be updated to plate appearances. It's pretty ridiculous that it's still AB like a walk doesn't count towards being a rookie or not. Saying that, it will be nice to know Mountcastle will be a rookie next year. If he hits anywhere near what he did this year he will certainly have a great chance to be the Orioles first rookie of the year since Gregg Olson in 1989.

Hey, before this game is out, I want to thank all of you regulars in here. Although I don't always make it into the chats, they're always a good time and I appreciate you guys making the Hangout your home to talk O's.

Hey, before this game is out, I want to thank all of you regulars in here. Although I don't always make it into the chats, they're always a good time and I appreciate you guys making the Hangout your home to talk O's.

Austin Hays is now hitting .351 (27-77) in his last 20 games.

Somebody had to say something... and now look what happened..

Really impressive to watch the development of John Means this year from a guy who pitches off his change up to a guy who pitches off his 93-95 MPH fastball.

Hays would have 5 or 6 outfield assists if Alberto or Valaika could tag correctly.

Can the Blue Jays move to Buffalo next year? It's so much nicer watching the #Orioles play in a beautiful grass stadium instead of the awful, artificial turf, sterile, Rogers Center.

Yes, I'm going to add in the new players acquired and drafted and redo the top 30. Probably not detailed in the write ups but will get will get a list out.

Not ours. He's only as high as he is (19) because Luke liked him a lot more than me and this was the compromise.

I have major questions over the bat myself.

From what I've seen in the past, Mullins is a better defender because he gets betters jumps and takes better routes overall. McKenna suffers from losing focus in the field and on base paths, things you rarely if ever see from Mullins. McKenna will throw to the wrong base on occasion or just be lackadaisical out there at times. Mullins is better hitter overall though McKenna does have some occasional pop that teases scouts sometimes.

Somehow they'll find a way to struggle on.

I honestly through major league ready in there so I wouldn't have to think about the rest of the system. McKenna has a better arm and can go get the ball, but I'd probably take Mullins over McKenna in CF defensively overall. I'd like to see Adam Hall maybe get a look in center to see how he looks. He seems to have the tools to play there and would have a better arm than Mullins overall. But all is probably destined for 2B or super utility.

Oh yes he would be. He would be downright awful there because of his long arm action and lack of arm strength from that angle typically used by a 2B. If Mountcastle could play 2B or 3B effectively, do you not think the Orioles would be trying him there? Imagine his bat at those positions. Unless you want bottom of the barrel, game changingly bad defense at those potions, you keep him in LF or 1B preferable.

Similar to Hunter Harvey, this is the main problem with counting on Hays. I really think he has the talent to be a solid every day major league player, but he needs to prove he can stay healthy over an entire season. He's yet to do that and wasn't even able to get through this mini 60 game season. I can see a future outfield though with him back in center regularly. Mullins is better suited as a 4th outfielder than an every day starter, though Mullins is the best defensive center fielder this organization has right now that's major league ready.

Hays has always been successful when he gets regular playing time over a decent amount of time. He's probably better suited for LF at Camden Yards than center where he could be a plus defender, but he's fine in center overall. Botjh his barrel% and Hard hit % have been creeping up to MLB avg after being well below average earlier in the year so I think we are just finally seeing what a healthy, in tuned Hays looks like at the plate finally. I still see him as one of the players that will be part of a winning future here.

I turned on the broadcast last night and within 10 seconds I heard "absolutely".