Moose Milligan

I'm not going to hop up and down and say this is a terrible signing or whatever until it actually happens. And even then, we still need to see how it stacks up with the rest of the moves in the offseason. I don't care that he doesn't have power stuff. IMO, it's a tad overrated. Movement, command, etc...always wins the day. DC was a great reliever for us last year, he doesn't throw hard. I get the kinky infatuation with high velocity guys for high leverage situations but batters today can turn around triple digits, too.

I'd love to see the board meltdown if we brought Odor back on an ST invite.

But that guy actually brought some value to the table.

Certainly seems to have the stuff that the O's front office likes. And this is part of the reason we like Elias a lot, because he's forward thinking when it comes to this type of stuff. I get the K-rate infatuation but if we sign him it'll be interesting to see how it plays out if he's effective here.

I doubt that Chapman is on the radar. At this point in his career, I'm not sure if I'd want him...a lot of it would just depend on what else we did to address the bullpen. Looking at offseason moves individually is a bit myopic, you have to look at the whole picture. If Chapman is the only bullpen piece we pick up, I'm probably not too happy about that. If he's part of a group of 3+ guys that all bring something to the table and the bullpen looks like an overall upgraded unit. He's not nearly what he used to be, he's not as invincible as he was...I'd hesitate to call him a weapon. But compared to the Givens pickup last year which turned out to be a massive flop, I think he'd be alright. Not great, not terrible, just alright. Probably a net positive but not a huge difference maker by himself.

That's true. And then the Orioles would be scouring the message board to look for potential hires, see his genius wheeling and dealing in hypothetical trades and decide to make him an offer without interviewing.

It all depends on how the rest of the offseason shakes out if we sign this guy. If, when training camp starts, he looks like a guy who is a guy with a chance to make the roster and could contribute, that's fine. But if he looks like more of a centerpiece offseason acquisition, IMO, that's a problem.

I think we need to take whatever Elias says with a grain of salt, especially when it comes to offseason plans. It's obvious that he will say one thing and then do another. Maybe that's intentional, maybe it's not but it is what it is.

9/9 113 Sid Bream, Dave Parker, Doug Drabek Hank Aaron, Prince Fielder, Rollie Fingers Kenny Lofton, Jim Thome, Bobby Thigpen

I get why @Frobbyfinds them enjoyable. But I can't get behind them when they think that Stowers will OPS higher than Holliday.

9/9 40

Quoted for SG!!!

Lol this offseason is about to be dildos. Of course it's been expected but to see it actually happen is still disappointing. I wanted Gray, would have given him a 3 year deal with a 4th option. And I'd go for the 4th year if I really, really had to but whatever. Our rotation for the next 2-3 years probably looks pretty good with him. Oh well.

Can’t help but get the familiar feeling the Orioles are gonna just lay back and not make any moves early.

If he can get on base at a decent clip he belongs at the top of the order, not the bottom.

Ok.

He’s always hurt.

Damn, I’m coming in here with a 44 thinking I did really well and then Frobby’s got a 19! Eckersley, Catfish Hunter, Piazza Juan Gonzalez, Palmer, Ripken Chipper Jones, Verlander, Strawberry

Seems safe to say that practically any make-believe trade on here this offseason will revolve around the Orioles trading some variation of Cowser/Norby/Ortiz/Stowers

Never would have guessed Bob Melvin as a Yankee backup catcher. I always remember Ponson being a Yankee because I thought it was hilarious they'd try to get something out of him, then realizing I'd be pissed if he actually reached his potential there.

Could have also used Ponson for Yankees/Giants. I dunno if I could think of another one.

That’s pretty impressive! Well done!

9/9 37. I like the low bar stats categories, they allow for lower scores. Wade Boggs, Dustin Pedroia, Bill Lee Darryl Strawberry, Brandon Belt, John Montefusco Deion Sanders, Barry Larkin, Jose Rijo

I’ll take the 92. I don’t know if that wins the East but I also don’t care. Just get to the playoffs.