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26 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
He's alright, voice is kind of whiny. But I'm pretty sure all of these guys, including Bruce, fall under the broad singer/songwriter umbrella.
Yeah, Zach is really talented. I'd heard him before but not much. Checking him out again now. For those of us on this site who like to talk music maybe we should start a thread in one of the other boards that's not O's specific.
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2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
Zach Bryan > pretty much everyone in the genre at the moment.
If you're talking young country music singers I'm partial to Tyler Childers.
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On 2/15/2023 at 6:34 AM, Moose Milligan said:
He's not exactly in his 20s, is he?
No, I'm not going. I can't stand him.
Is there anyone in their 20s who is any good? Actually there is -- a kid named Sam Fender -- who people have been calling a young, British Springsteen.
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1 hour ago, interloper said:
To me, Kremer has been the key. Just a few starts ago, he was rocking an ERA just under 5, and now he's approaching sub-4 with another good start or two. He's really on a roll.
Yep, and Grayson coming back strong has obviously been huge. Never would have guessed the rotation would remain this strong with Wells getting sent down.
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4 hours ago, Frobby said:
The starting pitching just continues to hum along.
July: 3.63 ERA, 3rd in the AL; 5.63 IP/start, 3rd in the AL
August: 3.68 ERA, 3rd in the AL; 5.83 IP/start, 1st in the AL
It's funny how a team can reach first place and stay there awhile when the starting pitching improves.
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2 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:
If you are counting Cal, you are going all the way back to 1982, 40 years. You can't really count Mora (Mets) or Jones (Mariners) as being developed by the O's. You of course have to count Robert's and Markakis. So that's 2 All Star level hitters since after Cal debuted. I forgot Mullins, that's 3. If that's not broken, I'm not sure what is. This current group of Elias O's already has 2 All Sfar level players in Adley and Gunnar. I believe Holliday is close to a sure thing too. So that's as many All Star level hitters in less than 5 years as the previous 35 years.
Yeah, if you're just talking homegrown All-stars since the early 80s you need to include Manny Machado, Matt Wieters, Jonathan Schoop and Brady Anderson (even though Brady was drafted by Boston he didn't reach the majors until he came to Baltimore). Btw, did Nick Markakis never make a single All-Star game? Doesn't seem like he did, but they've grown some players like him too who were quite good if never All-Stars.
Also consider the handful of homegrown hitters the O's traded early who prospered elsewhere -- like Jayson Werth and Steve Finley.
It's interesting -- the O's are usually criticized for failing to develop pitchers, not hitters -- maybe because they seem to have traded away more eventual excellent pitchers than hitters.
But even in their worst years the O's generally seemed to have pretty good hitting, being able to sign/acquire many good role player hitters as well as star names like Miguel Tejada and Chris Davis. Davis is an example of a hitter the O's acquired that performed much better when he got to Baltimore (for a few years anyway).
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1 hour ago, Hallas said:
Roberts was a switch hitter, and in his prime was a much, much better hitter than Santander even if he didn't hit the HRs. His doubles and OBP made up for the lack of HRs, and his best SLG year is better than Santander's.
I really don't think Santander qualifies as great. Rutschman is a great player. Henderson might be a great player. Acuna is a great player. Santander? He's a good player, not a great one.
Santander's power numbers are better than Adley's this year for sure. I was surprised to see some people on these boards grumble about Adley being a bit of a disappointment. I very much disagree he's a disappointment, but he hasn't yet really shown "greatness" -- too soon really -- even though we're all supposed to believe he's the second coming. What he's shown is solid, consistent hitting, excellent catching skills and leadership, and confidence, especially with how he appears to work with the pitchers.
Looking at Santander's baseball reference page, it's interesting to see that the player it considers him comparing best with is Jay Buhner. Buhner, while maybe not great, if my memory is any good was a very solid player. If Santander is a good comp, then it's possible, like Buhner, he won't peak for a few more years -- beginning around age 29. Now take all this with a grain of salt because Buhner's peak years were in the middle of the steroid era. Yet in at least one way Santander appears to be better than Buhner in that he does not strike out nearly as much. My point here, by br's comparison (for what it's worth) -- it's quite possible Santander's best years are still to come.
Whether the O's trade Santander or not, I doubt they do it on the assumption that any of the young prospects will be ready to step in for him on opening day of next year. There's a decent chance that one or more of Cowser, Kjerstad and Mayo could all one day end up being better than Santander. But replace that production by early next season? Maybe, but I'm of the mind set that you don't assume something will happen until it happens. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Keep Santander until one or more of them forces their way in to show they can replace, or even better, outperform him.
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7 minutes ago, Brian88 said:
How has Cowser “not been good” since going back to Norfolk? That’s just not even true, if you have given up on him because of what he showed in the majors, just say that.
He hits the ball hard for sure, but 16 strikeouts in 40 at bats in the month of August is not good. It's not that I have given up on him but the idea that he's close to taking over for Santander is nuts.
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1 minute ago, accinfo said:
Cowser did nothing so we should just write off his career. This is why Elias makes these decisions and not any of us here at the Hangout. Thank God! I like Santander but these guys are going to try to get max back from him. If they can’t I guess they will wait.
I never came close to suggesting we should write off Cowser's career -- what I did say, clearly, is that he should not be a lock to start for Santander at the beginning of next season. If anything Elias has been biased in favor of veterans -- especially the ones who are key to their current ways of winning.
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14 minutes ago, 86this said:
Wow, did McKenna go to baseball camp this summer?
Quote of the thread.
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5 minutes ago, Malike said:
McKenna has a .958 OPS in 3 seasons at AAA.
Good point -- except I'm not sure what your point is.
Are you saying a lot of players impress at AAA but not at the MLB level -- at least not for awhile? The way McKenna is playing tonight it's like he wants to be thought of as a starter soon -- but I'm pretty sure you're not suggesting that.
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1 minute ago, accinfo said:
You can argue Cowser is banging the door down despite what he did in limited time in the big leagues. Look at his resume at AAA before and after he came up. They will evaluate that.
Cowser did nothing when he came up to MLB and he hasn't been good since he got sent back down. Fangraphs and a couple others have been critical of him for awhile now. Not saying he won't figure it out but it's silly to think he's a lock for taking over for Anthony Santander to start next season.
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1 minute ago, accinfo said:
Either trade him at his highest value or the following year when he is a free agent. They are not going to sign him.
No one in the minors has come close to proving to be a worthy replacement. Cowser and Stowers could take all of next year to figure it out -- maybe longer. Kjerstad may not even be an outfielder. Maybe if they trade for someone as good or better but very unlikely. If they are not going to re-sign him and they don't have a proven replacement then maybe better to let him walk and figure it out next offseason. It's too risky to trade him without someone banging down the door and forcing himself into his role.
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What's all this talk in the Santander thread about trading Tony in the offseason? Crazy talk if you ask me.
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Got this in a bit late but had to post it since it matches my avatar
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Just now, oriolediehard said:
Urias can't hit, he is only a good fielder.
Urias can get hot at the plate but yeah he's cooled off a lot the last month or so. I think lack of playing time has cooled off his bat
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Flexen was a good pitcher the past couple seasons. He's gotten knocked around this year but he's got the stuff to succeed. But also I think the O's are struggling with this strike zone.
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Don't like this ump's strike zone even if it's working in Bradish's favor too.
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1 minute ago, Malike said:
You bet.
I live in the same neighborhood as the Dude. Every time I see your avatar I assume he's an O's fan.
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10 minutes ago, Malike said:
Of course, it's park-adjusted.
Thanks Dude!
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5 minutes ago, Malike said:
He has an OPS+ of 113, we have 6 batters that are higher.
Is OPS+ park adjusted? Because his actual OPS is higher than every O's hitter except O'Hearn. And his career OPS is .842.
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Never know what you're going to get with a pitcher like Irvin. He'll have a good start here and there but really belongs in the pen.
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I forgot about Charlie Blackmon and how good he is. He's arguably better than any current O's hitter.
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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:
It’s simple. They didn’t throw max effort on every pitch. Managers were very reluctant to pull their starters because relievers weren’t very good, so starters had to pace themselves. Nowadays, it’s clear that a fresh reliever is better than a tired starter, so starters go max effort and get relieved as soon as they start losing effectiveness.
In 1939, batters’ OPS against starters was about 15 points lower than against relievers. Today it’s 30 points higher. So, the calculus about when to pull the starter has changed considerably.
Love your research tidbits. Where's you find that one?
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band coming to Camden Yards
in Orioles Talk
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That's a bummer. Even though I could never stand "Born in the USA" nor most of his stuff since the 90s I'm a big fan of his early albums from the 70s and into the early 80s -- Greetings from Asbury Park all the way to Nebraska.
I don't understand why people make fun of old rock stars still performing. Does anyone make fun of Willie Nelson still performing -- or Tony Bennett before he died? Like these rockers are supposed to move to Florida and take up golf and pickleball? They'll all be dead and gone sooner than you know it, and we will miss them. Who knows if Jimmy Buffett's fan base will ever get over him passing away.