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But they have a locked in price of 550K or so for the first three years. So it's 15M a year for the last three which is way more than he is likely to make in arbitration.

Yep, Hays is no where near that type of prospect. White Sox were already at ~50M on Robert before they did this deal.

That isn't a bad team, it's the worst team.

You know, Willie Keeler never made an All Star game or won a Gold Glove...

Picking a guy that ended up have a genetic abnormality that they had no way to detect is not whiffing. Do the O's get points off for picking Machado and his wonky knees?

He hasn't been the last few years.

It will be bad for the league if they have five teams worse than the 2020 O's.

Coveted minor league players can make decent money. I'm assuming convincing him to go to A ball would take a little grease. If I were actually suggesting it.

I'm fine with Wieters. The issue I have is that he allowed that dynamic to continue for over a year. To me that doesn't go along with being a leader.

Yea, but it isn't. I'm not saying he showed up and was hazed and he didn't immediately handle the situation. From what I read this took place over the place of two seasons. He came into camp as the starting catcher and an established ML player. I'm not sure what your fighting back comment is supposed to mean, you seem a bit focused on violence for some reason. I have not heard anything about the situation being physical in nature. As for your tiara example, if over a year later I couldn't convince them to stop putting a tiara on my head I wouldn't consider myself much of a leader.

I'm going to disagree. I can't see a person with tangible leadership skills still suffering from hazing after more than a year in the league. I agree that bringing Caleb back wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, signing Davis to a 10/350M extension would be a lot worse for instance. I don't see how it would help, unless you are going to pay him 500K to play behind AR in the minors.

Larger pool as well.

I tried to avoid it, I hear it makes the heart grow fonder.

Didn't Buck have to intervene because Wieters was being hazed? Doesn't sound like someone with strong leadership skills.

Rays had 10 first round picks in 2011.

Two appearances 1.1 IP, nothing but zeros.

The man has total control, if Davis is still with the team it's because Elias wants him there.

Shame Elias clearly thinks he has a future with the team.

Except Davis.

I thought the O's had a bullpen coach?

Pearce.

I see no reason why Elias wouldn't trade with the Nationals. Unless of course he has a mandate from ownership concerning it.

I'd like for them to be useful and inexpensive.

Roberts, Hardy.

If you are one of thirty groups running a test and 29 groups get one result and you get a different result it might be wise to change your methodology.