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Once again not dumping on you for posting these rumors, just pointing out that folks are just straight making stuff up in regards to the O's.

I wasn't being critical of you.

Yes the Orioles are linked to a pitcher, in this fanciful four team trade. I miss the old days when "journalists" only used words like linked when there was actually some sort of source to at least confirm a conversation took place. The original MLB.com article is a joke. They even say "So let’s fake a deal! "

How do you plan to get out of the contract after the '28 season? Spike his food with Clostebol?

I thought the goal included at least one ring. Is the goal just avoiding irrelevancy for as long as possible?

Hard to sign guys when you can't get ownership to open the checkbooks! I'm not sure about every year but I'm sure I read that for at least some of these years the O's FO was constrained by what ownership was willing to pay.

That is when Angelos demanded signability picks (to include Markakis).

You do have a RoY winner mixed in there. Gregg Olson ERA+ as an Oriole. 123 224 158 126 195 281 That's a real nice stretch.

I don't think Elias builds his plans around that draft pick. Even with strong contenders it's far from a lock.

You think think what you want but I know. Adley didn't get called up the prior September Adley wasn't added to the 40 man roster No statement was made declaring him a lock for the OD roster When his MiL rehab ended he was sent to Norfolk I think Elias sent him to Norfolk to try and game his clock and it backfired. Would that have been the plan if he had been healthy? The possibly was certainly there. My personal belief is, that in a season he didn't view as being competitive, he would have rather had the seventh season than gamble on the draft pick. Anyway, yea, I was just messing with you because you were lazy in your wording. I did expect that you would have figured out what I was doing without my having to tell you.

Have to have a Turkey for Thanksgiving!

Adley didn't win ROTY. OH! You meant that he wouldn't win or finish second in ROTY voting. I get it now. Why didn't you say that? BTW I'm pretty sure Elias thought he had kept Adley down long enough that he couldn't pull off his second place finish so it might not be as easy to walk the tightrope as you think.

I'm more concerned what we saw for those 30 games was just a guy on a heater.

Sure. So why would they pull an Adley again? That's just stupid and I don't think any of us think Elias is stupid.

Why would they want to do that?

If prices are sky high every year than prices are actually normal.

No. They even have a special name for the ones that don't.

I was just going by the extremely simplistic guideline that a replacement level team will win about 48 games, so if the O's are projected 40 wins higher....88.

That's what about 40 WAR there? So ~88 wins?

Since it's just me left to do this sort of thing.

Kyle Gibson went 15-9 in 192 IP. Do you think we should trade for him back?

Would make him cheaper to extend long term.

Yount was in the majors at 18 and didn't have an OPS+ over 100 until his fifth season.

Who projects? Saw this earlier today. 2024 Steamer projections. I'm not advocating this particular projection just showing one that doesn't agree with what you are suggesting. If you'd like to show a projection that does agree with what you are saying, feel free.

Remember when the Mets had Harvey, deGrom, Wheeler and Syndergaard? I also would not appoint either Bradish or Grayson a #1 at this time. Bradish had a #1 season and Grayson had a strong finish but did end up below average at the end of the day.