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Do you think rWAR is an irrelevant measure? Or do you think 4.1 (2013) and 4.5 (2014) is not good? Or do you think our infield defense is not a good fit for a groundball pitcher?

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No, I just think he can't pitch anymore. Not at a high level. He's done. Or at least a middle reliever.

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http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2015/9/21/9359685/what-happened-to-doug-fister

But despite the warning signs that began to emerge for Fister, who then found himself on the wrong side of 30, the Nationals were lauded as having one of the top rotations in baseball entering the 2015 season. Between Stephen Strasburg, Jordan Zimmermann, Gio Gonzalez, Fister, and the newly-acquired Max Scherzer the Nats were supposed to run wild through the National League East. That, of course, has not happened.

Fister has gone out in 2015 and picked up right where he left off in 2014 in terms of his peripheral numbers regressing. His strikeout, groundball and home run rates all continue to trend in a negative direction, his walk rate has regressed back toward his career norm, and opponents have a .312 BABIP against this year. His FIP- is 121, the worst of his career. Matt Williams – in what might be his best idea of the year – booted Fister from the starting rotation and relegated him to the bullpen.

The reason for Fister’s decline is not difficult to see – he has lost significant chunks of velocity over the past two years. While he was never a guy who was going to blow the fastball by hitters, he was still able to average around 90 mph on his sinker. In 2014, he only averaged 88.6 mph with the offering. Fister has lost two more miles per hour on the pitch this year. He has seen a three-mile per hour drop in velocity across his entire repertoire since 2013, according to the Brooks Baseball data displayed below.

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Do you think rWAR is an irrelevant measure? Or do you think 4.1 (2013) and 4.5 (2014) is not good? Or do you think our infield defense is not a good fit for a groundball pitcher?

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Healthy pitchers who lose velocity don’t simply gain it back. Mike Mussina did a great job later in his career with the Yankees of finding ways to be successful with lower velocity. CC Sabathia, on the other hand, has not.

He's not Mike. Nor does he have six MLB pitches. And Mike was slight.

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One "under the radar" pitcher worth considering is the Dodgers lefty Brett Anderson. He's solid, but unspectacular and affordable(he'll get about 10-12 million as a FA. Not cheap, but not ridiculous money either.

Like Garcia, he has mostly been hurt. But it would be ok. FIP was 3.94

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He was better than good in 2014.
Well, he's not anymore. They go bad really quickly.
By the traditional metrics, Fister dominated in his first year with the Nationals, winning 16 games and finishing the season with a 2.41 ERA.The advanced metrics tell a different story of Fister’s 2014, one where he should have considered himself the beneficiary of good fortune.

Fister’s FIP- ballooned from 82 to 108, despite a 66 ERA-. His strikeout percentage slid from 18.1% to 14.8%, and while he did cut down on walks, his K-BB% dropped from 13.1% to 11.2%. Even worse news for Fister was that his groundball rate dropped nearly six percentage points from 54.3% to 48.9%. Those groundballs were turning into flyballs, which were leaving the park for home runs at a higher rate than was Fister’s career norm. Fister also benefitted from hitters posting only a .262 BABIP against him. As of this writing, Fister’s career BABIP against is .294.

Not better than good. Not at all. Bud Norris good.

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I like Reddick. No Fowler for me. Stay clear of National league heroes. He'd be Parra.

Beane sounds like he wants to keep Reddick. Although I thought he was pretty emphatic that Donaldson wasn't available either.

One player who will be back, Beane said: right fielder Josh Reddick. Reddick, 28, fits the profile of a player the A’s often move because he’s coming off a good offensive year and will be a free-agent after next season, but Beane said the team is considering an extension for Reddick.

“Josh is a good player and he’s still young,” Beane said. “We’ve always liked having him here. Talented guy, does everything well. ... We’re all very pleased with the year Josh had.”

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DEFINITELY GETTING QO

Wei-Yin Chen, Orioles

Chris Davis, Orioles

Dexter Fowler, Cubs

Alex Gordon, Royals (assuming he declines $12.5-million player option)

Zack Greinke, Dodgers (assuming he opts out of final three years, $71 million)

Jason Heyward, Cardinals

Hisashi Iwakuma, Mariners

Howie Kendrick, Dodgers

John Lackey, Cardinals

Jeff Samardzija, White Sox

Justin Upton, Padres

Matt Wieters, Orioles

Jordan Zimmermann, Nationals

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25333950/qualifying-offer-set-at-158-million-which-free-agents-will-get-one

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