How would you fix this mess?

[weams]

I think they would still prefer he sell it off.

By a pretty wide margin.

MLB is not the only party to appease.

[Going Underground]

Who???

If this is our rotation you might as well blow up the team now. Our rotation was horrible last year, third worst in the AL, and this would have us replacing Chen with Leake at the top of our rotation. No thanks.

The Orioles are not going to spend for Price or Zimmerman. I don't think they would even spend for Leake.

Son hits for average and gets on base. Plus defender,

Son, 27, is a left-handed hitting, right-handed throwing corner outfielder whose forte is more hitting for a high average and getting on base than the power-hitting Kang. The 5-foot-9, 190-pound Son has hit better than .300 for six consecutive seasons with the Lotte Giants of the Korean Baseball Organization.

His best season came in 2014, when he batted .362/.456/.538 and won a fourth consecutive Gold Glove, which is given to the best overall player at his position in the KBO. This year, Son is hitting .324/.412/.476 and shows enough power to quell concerns he?s simply a slap hitter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--korean-outfielder-plans-to-enter-posting-system-this-offseason-232605015.html

[BohKnowsBmore]

Sorry. Other things are cheaper. The last ten years are no time to use to support a future money cost argument.

Maybe from an overall market perspective, but the finances of baseball have drastically changed since then. Particularly with all of the RSN money.

[Reboulet'sStache]

Not sure it can be fixed. We have traded away too much talent, with not enough waiting in the wings.

[weams]

Not sure it can be fixed. We have traded away too much talent' date=' with not enough waiting in the wings.[/quote']

Really? From what I can tell we have not traded much. Except Jake. Who was a broken toy that someone else fixed. Or he took something.

[Ripken]

They only way to really fix it for next year involves spending lots of money, which will not happen. I'd do my damnedest to draft an entirely new talent base next year. If we give a QO to the three big names leaving, and they leave, that gives us something like 7 or 8 picks in the first 100. That has to be the focus. Get a load of talented kids in the org, pray for Bundy and Harvey and see if any other prospects step up.

For 2016, extend Manny, pickup some reasonable vets that don't have picks attached (Kazmir, Reddick, etc.) and hope there's enough offense and a return to the 2014 version of the starters.

[Camden_yardbird]

Without discussing specific players:

1. Extend three QO'S and spend a little more on scouting to ensure a good draft with 6 or 7 picks in the top 100.

2. Continue to explore the Asian market and reasonably priced Latin players.

3. Ensure the strongest part of this team is its bullpen. Even good starting pitching needs a food bullpen to succeed (see Washington / Blu Jays in the LCS).

4. Lock up young talent. Even deals that can look outrageous for YOUNG players can be reasonable with the amount of inflation in baseball (see McCutchen/ Longoria).

5. Continue to foster on base skills in the farm system and prioritize on base skills with free agent acquisitions. Power is streaky and can disappear in October when facing good pitching and cold temperatures.

6. I would rather have 5 average or above starting pitchers than an ace and a bunch of maybe guys. If you can develop an ace great, but even if you do it takes time for aces to learn how to be aces in the playoffs (see Kershaw, Cole). A deep starting staff is much more effective at getting you to the playoffs.

4.

[DrungoHazewood]

I use the term "mess" because the O's are in a very precarious situation. The wrong roster moves could really sink this franchise into another 10 year drought.

I'll reiterate that the idea that the O's could do something this offseason that will cause the 2020 or 2025 Orioles to be out of contention is almost certainly an exaggeration. The Orioles have some important decisions to make over the next few months, but I'd rather not fall into the trap of thinking that each decision point is the difference between falling into or escaping from a never-ending abyss.

[DrungoHazewood]

The Orioles are not going to spend for Price or Zimmerman. I don't think they would even spend for Leake.

Son hits for average and gets on base. Plus defender,

Son, 27, is a left-handed hitting, right-handed throwing corner outfielder whose forte is more hitting for a high average and getting on base than the power-hitting Kang. The 5-foot-9, 190-pound Son has hit better than .300 for six consecutive seasons with the Lotte Giants of the Korean Baseball Organization.

His best season came in 2014, when he batted .362/.456/.538 and won a fourth consecutive Gold Glove, which is given to the best overall player at his position in the KBO. This year, Son is hitting .324/.412/.476 and shows enough power to quell concerns he?s simply a slap hitter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--korean-outfielder-plans-to-enter-posting-system-this-offseason-232605015.html

I would love for the Orioles to pursue Son. But keep in mind that the KBO is an extreme hitter's league with an overall talent level that might be about AA quality. Eric Thames, who hit .256 for the 2013 Norfolk Tides, just finished a season in the KBO where he hit .381/47/140 in a 144 game schedule. Son's Lotte Giants had six different pitchers with 50+ innings and an ERA over 4.75. Yamaico Navarro (remember him?) hit 48 homers (!!) in the same league. So, sure, go after Son. But keep your expectations realistic.

[FlyGy185]

I'd remove John Cena, Kane and Big Show from the roster. Out with the old, in with the new. Bring up some of those NXT stars! LOL.