Gallardo - Roch: deal is DONE (signed)

[Number5]

I mentioned a while ago that my credible source told me the Orioles had discussions with Latos' camp, but Latos' camp actually mentioned the Orioles notorious physicals during the discussions "multiple times" and talks cooled after that.

Yep. Told everyone that he was worried about the physical Drove his own price down, IMO. I think it cost him a lot of money.

[Going Underground]

Yep. Told everyone that he was worried about the physical Drove his own price down, IMO. I think it cost him a lot of money.

Bronson Arroyo almost signed with the Orioles in 2014 but was afraid of the physical. I guess they were right on him also.

[25 Nuggets]

I really people would start looking at game logs and not just flat out stat lines.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=gallayo01&t=p&year=

He got lit up in 4 games in the second half, 3 of them back to back to back after All-Star break. 4 games and none of those 4 games did he give up more then 5 runs. But 20 ER in 19 IP, will take you from a 2.74 ERA to a 3.42 ERA.

It will also kill your WHIP cause in those 4 games he gave up 30 hits and 10BB. That will take you from a 1.32 WHIP to a 1.416 WHIP.

Ask Chris Tillman what 4 games can do to your WHIP and ERA as it was the Blue Jays who destroyed his numbers last year. Tillman pitched a good game opening day... then ran into the buzzsaw that was the Blue Jays, 3 starts against them in a Month.

He wasn't all that good in September either... and perhaps the biggest thing is, he lasted six innings only twice after the all star break. Eleven times before the all star break.

[O's are Legends]

Bronson Arroyo almost signed with the Orioles in 2014 but was afraid of the physical. I guess they were right on him also.

I remember that. Thank goodness Arroyo didn't sign here, he would have been expensive injured BP.

[BradyBunch]

Yeah...but he only pitched 6 innings in a game twice after the AS break. That's not very encouraging.

And Rangers were in a playoff race. He left alot of those games in the 5 inning with runners on. So it was about protecting the lead and his pitch count was in the 90s. Nothing unusual with that.

[BradyBunch]

He wasn't all that good in September either... and perhaps the biggest thing is, he lasted six innings only twice after the all star break. Eleven times before the all star break.

I said he had 4 bad games. One of those was in September. You are not a 4 WAR pitcher if you are injured (shoulder issues).

[Jagwar]

I hear this guy is still available.

[Sir_Loin]

Nothing to worry about here.

[El Gordo]

Nothing to worry about here.

Are you referring to his struggles in the second half last year being injury related, or are you talking about the outcome of the physical?

[El Gordo]

I hear this guy is still available.

Hell of a change up.

[fearthenoodle]

I interpreted it as the physical.

I think there may be some truth to the theory that they wanted to hold on Gallardo's physical to make sure they also had Fowler in the fold.

That maybe the concerns over the shoulder were enough to make them hesitant to give up pick 14, but willing to roll the dice for pick 28.

[Obando]

I'm hoping that's the case, and that the delay on Gallardo was just a false alarm. I know he's not an ace, but he still makes this rotation much more solid and gives us much better depth. I really hope this deal still gets finalized.

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[accinfo]

I'm hoping that's the case, and that the delay on Gallardo was just a false alarm. I know he's not an ace, but he still makes this rotation much more solid and gives us much better depth. I really hope this deal still gets finalized.

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Is it possible that they are delaying making this official because they need to cut 2 players and they are trying to make a deal?

[Capn Vivi]

I predict Gallardo's signing will be official in the next 1-2 days. This is just the Orioles doing due diligence on an expensive deal for a pitcher. I trust they know what a healthy/unhealthy shoulder looks like, but I also think this is as good as done.

Ubaldo was signed (at least it was reported as "official pending a physical") on 2/17/14 and announced by the team on 2/19/14.

So it's been 1 day longer than the Jimenez physical. I'll start to get worried once we enter Balfour territory.

Very excited to see him and Fowler in Oriole uniforms for the next 3 years!

[Capn Vivi]

Is it possible that they are delaying making this official because they need to cut 2 players and they are trying to make a deal?

Anything is possible for a team that sent Wei-Yin Chen to A-ball for roster maneuvers and was once banned from entering Korean baseball stadiums.

Edit: Also, hey Dad.