Gallardo - Roch: deal is DONE (signed)

[CaptainRedbeard]

I've got plenty of posts here where I'm pretty harsh on the management of the club, so I'm not in the absolute homer camp. But, that piece from Rosenthal is pure trash. He's all over the map with his crap. Why would Gallardo be less appealing if he goes back on the market if the O's physical is, as he claims, a farce?

Man, this is spot on. He talks up the grievance with Balfour alot in the article. Wanna know why it hasn't advanced anywhere? Because he lost out on a 2/15 contract with the Orioles and still signed a 2/12 contract with the Rays. The grievance is only worth a maximum of $3MM! When you factor in legal fees and the low probability of winning it (because, you know, Balfour was actually hurt...conveniently glossed over), it's not even worth pursuing.

Either the Orioles are a running a scam, like he alleges, and other teams know so the players aren't actually hurt. Or the Orioles are correctly identifying when players are hurt or have medical concerns that aren't priced into their perceived market value.

[CaptainRedbeard]

But you lose the pick for even less years.So Oriole doctors can predict in the third year issues will prop up.They are amazing.

The 4th year option on Gallardo's original contract was very unlikely to be exercised, even if he is healthy the next 3 years. It had almost zero value. The third year option in the current contract is much more likely to be exercised. In either case, at his ability, age, and salary, he's likely to only be worth having on the team for 3 years. And of course, it's not about predicting the exact year the injury will be, it's about lowering the overall guaranteed money. Now we have the option to cut bait after 2 years if he gets hurt or falls apart.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Keep in mind what we need to expect out of Gallardo. He is essentially replacing our number 5, because without him, we are going with Worley, Wilson, etc... Great move.

[TheBee]

Rosenthal's revised piece is still trash. Contains a quote from a player rep who essentially says this is why the Orioles should always be a player's last choice.

[ExileAngelos]

Keep in mind what we need to expect out of Gallardo. He is essentially replacing our number 5' date=' because without him, we are going with Worley, Wilson, etc... Great move.[/quote']

If that is the case then we never truly replaced Chen. Not so great.

[Fan4Life]

Loin was right again. Guy has been spot on and unwavering. Yet, there are still doubters.

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Some people need the drama.....

[baltfan]

Rosenthal's revised piece is still trash. Contains a quote from a player rep who essentially says this is why the Orioles should always be a player's last choice.

Agreed. He has no idea how valid the issues are and it's a stretch to say that Angelos is just meddling. This deal isn't big enough to be meddling over.

[Babypowder]

So now to be worth the deal he just needs to provide ~42MM in value over 2 years.

[weams]

Agreed. He has no idea how valid the issues are and it's a stretch to say that Angelos is just meddling. This deal isn't big enough to be meddling over.

Frank Wren, who he quotes, was fired for gross negligence last century. Jim Duquette has no idea what discussions Mike Flanagan and Peter Angelos had alone.

[weams]

So now to be worth the deal he just needs to provide ~42MM in value over 2 years.

So, about 5 War. He was worth about 6.6 the last two years. I suppose there has to be regression.

[MrOrange82]

Some people need the drama.....

I'd wager that the number of people pawing at the loincloth has far exceeded those taking shots at it.

[Babypowder]

So, about 5 War.

A little more than that. He's projected for about 1.6, so I still say it's not likely.

Unless of course, you use rWAR and he drastically outpitches his peripherals again. The defense will have to be better than they were last year though.

[weams]

Unless of course, you use rWAR.

Of course I do.

[Obando]

Sir Loin, as always, thanks for the accurate info you have been providing. I never doubted you once. I hope you will continue to be a source of great and timely info for all of us O's diehards moving forward. Major props to you!

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[NashLumber]

Rosenthal's revised piece is still trash. Contains a quote from a player rep who essentially says this is why the Orioles should always be a player's last choice.

Rosenthal's getting bashed hard on Twitter due to it, too. Total jack-leg move by him. We get it, Ken. You can't let go of your grudge.