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9 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

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Other than trying to get some anger going ...... what is the point of this? The people that were glad about him getting released were few and far between. 

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People may be wanting  to blow off some steam because of the condition of the Orioles' starting pitching as of late.

 

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 I don't know, but I think I can see the point in discussing this, especially if we are still considering extending Tillman.

 And it's not like he starting a whole new thread about it just bumped one for discussion, not sure what the problem is. 

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17 minutes ago, murph said:

Ok.

So, I hadn't looked at him this year as of yet and just did, wow he is really off to a great start.  He is definitely making his release look foolish.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gonzami03.shtml

He's still beating the Yankees for us. Seems like he'd have a hard time breaking the Os rotation six deep. Right? He would not have an option this year. 

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2 minutes ago, weams said:

He's still beating the Yankees for us. Seems like he'd have a hard time breaking the Os rotation six deep. Right? He would not have an option this year. 

Agreed, but still would be a nice problem to have!  And I imagine his year will be more consistent over all than Ubaldo, but yes I know with the money involved Ubaldo is not going anywhere.  Just hope he strings together some more starts like his last. 

 

I am thrilled Gonzo regardless. 

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4 minutes ago, murph said:

Agreed, but still would be a nice problem to have!  And I imagine his year will be more consistent over all than Ubaldo, but yes I know with the money involved Ubaldo is not going anywhere.  Just hope he strings together some more starts like his last. 

 

I am thrilled Gonzo regardless. 

I do not believe he will have a better season from this point forward than Ubaldo. No. 

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14 hours ago, murph said:

 I don't know, but I think I can see the point in discussing this, especially if we are still considering extending Tillman.

 And it's not like he starting a whole new thread about it just bumped one for discussion, not sure what the problem is. 

First, before the injury 4/50 for Tillman would have been a bargain, and was never going to happen.

Second, many guys had seasons like Miguel did and then fell off the planet fast. Rodrigo Lopez is one example. Does letting Miguel go look bad now? Yeah. But I don't remember too many people saying that then.

Miguel Gonzalez will probably get a 4/50 m deal himself now when he's a FA. Would many be clamoring to give him that kind of deal? I think if Tillman is an Oriole next year, he took the QA. The Orioles won't be giving him a longterm imo.

 

My original comment actually did have something to do with the posters point. Gonzalez was never given a chance until the Orioles came calling. Now they are being called out for keeping Tillman and releasing Gonzalez? Tillman was the ace of the staff who had a bad year. Gonzalez was a journeyman who seemed like the magic wore off. Many teams make these same type of moves.

 

It's over and done now. Why harp on it? Hey, let's trade Sisco and get Miguel back.

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5 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

First, before the injury 4/50 for Tillman would have been a bargain, and was never going to happen.

Second, many guys had seasons like Miguel did and then fell off the planet fast. Rodrigo Lopez is one example. Does letting Miguel go look bad now? Yeah. But I don't remember too many people saying that then.

Miguel Gonzalez will probably get a 4/50 m deal himself now when he's a FA. Would many be clamoring to give him that kind of deal? I think if Tillman is an Oriole next year, he took the QA. The Orioles won't be giving him a longterm imo.

 

My original comment actually did have something to do with the posters point. Gonzalez was never given a chance until the Orioles came calling. Now they are being called out for keeping Tillman and releasing Gonzalez? Tillman was the ace of the staff who had a bad year. Gonzalez was a journeyman who seemed like the magic wore off. Many teams make these same type of moves.

 

It's over and done now. Why harp on it? Hey, let's trade Sisco and get Miguel back.

I get what your saying, but it is something to discuss IMO. 

If Gonzo gets 4/50 I will be shocked, but I guess if he pitches this well all year, someone may give it to him. 

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3 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

First, before the injury 4/50 for Tillman would have been a bargain, and was never going to happen.

Second, many guys had seasons like Miguel did and then fell off the planet fast. Rodrigo Lopez is one example. Does letting Miguel go look bad now? Yeah. But I don't remember too many people saying that then.

Miguel Gonzalez will probably get a 4/50 m deal himself now when he's a FA. Would many be clamoring to give him that kind of deal? I think if Tillman is an Oriole next year, he took the QA. The Orioles won't be giving him a longterm imo.

 

My original comment actually did have something to do with the posters point. Gonzalez was never given a chance until the Orioles came calling. Now they are being called out for keeping Tillman and releasing Gonzalez? Tillman was the ace of the staff who had a bad year. Gonzalez was a journeyman who seemed like the magic wore off. Many teams make these same type of moves.

 

It's over and done now. Why harp on it? Hey, let's trade Sisco and get Miguel back.

I agree with most of what you say here, but  there is zero chance that Gonzo gets anything remotely close to a 4/50 deal. He will be lucky to get a 2/17 deal. And that might even be generous.

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